Classic?

[Voltaire]

Unlike Itilian motorcycle owners who won't give give you the time of day unless your bike has chassis number within a bulls roar of thers.....eh John

Fat Jellys are classics though

I'm not one of your ' Matching engine and frame number" anoraks
( mainly as Ducati bevels don't ...as they could not co-ordinate their frame and engine suppliers...)
I leave that to the investment types.
...in fact I have no plans to ever restore the Darmah...just do running repairs...like the guys I saw today giving their Vincents and Tridents a good thrashing up the North Island.
Ride 'em don't hide them!!!

[Richard Mc F]

Good to to see them used. coupla months ago, ok beginning of may I saw a vincent parked outside a pub in Paihatua, dirty with saddle bags.......excellent

But only ducrapi owners can get snobbish about valve actuation, ( yes but it's not a desmo) or cam drive ( oh it's only a belt drive) or shape of the engine lump ( you mean it's not a round case?) and "Oh it doesn't have a dead fly moulded in the transparent section of the fuel tank!"

Ahhhh it's great fun

[Mekk]

Old Vehicle Classification

The following are the classes to which old vehicles are classified for collectors purposes. Note that there are two systems, European and New Zealand.

European:

* Veteran, up to 1907

* Edwardian, 1908 - 1919

* Vintage, Jan 1920 - Dec 1930

* Classic, Jan 1930 on, only collectable types



New Zealand:

* Veteran, up to Dec 1918

* Vintage, Jan 1919 - 31 Dec 1931

* Post Vintage, Jan 1932 - 31 Dec 1945

* Post War, Jan 1946 - 31 Dec 1960.

Note, this is for cars. I don't know if it holds for motorcycles. Anyone able to confirm/deny?

[ajturbo]

Excuse my ignorance but when does a bike become a classic. How bout my 1984 Fj1100 Yami then???

thats not a "classic".. thats a land whale

LTSA rate a "classic" as something over 40 years

[Voltaire]

Old Vehicle Classification

The following are the classes to which old vehicles are classified for collectors purposes. Note that there are two systems, European and New Zealand.

European:

* Veteran, up to 1907

* Edwardian, 1908 - 1919

* Vintage, Jan 1920 - Dec 1930

* Classic, Jan 1930 on, only collectable types



New Zealand:

* Veteran, up to Dec 1918

* Vintage, Jan 1919 - 31 Dec 1931

* Post Vintage, Jan 1932 - 31 Dec 1945

* Post War, Jan 1946 - 31 Dec 1960.

Note, this is for cars. I don't know if it holds for motorcycles. Anyone able to confirm/deny?

Yes, they are the dates used by the Vintage Car Clubs here in NZ and probably the US as pre WW2 NZ imported a large amount of US cars and after thru trade went British, also holds for motorcycles.
The European one is different as they didn't really have much in the way of car ownership until the 50's

Probably seemed relevent once upon a time....

One observation on this part of the forum is the large interest in 70's and 80's Japanese bikes, which makes sense as that is what people grew up with..British bikes to most would be 'of interest' much in the same way as I see pre WW2 cars and bikes.

[Big Zappa]

Do you think it's a classic? It's all that matters.

[Dodgyiti]

Unlike Itilian motorcycle owners who won't give give you the time of day unless your bike has chassis number within a bulls roar of thers...

It say's it's a tiger's roar on the sticker!

Raaagh! Meoow

[hospitalfood]

Of course, some on this forum would say any type of valve (except a powervalve) was ghey.

hey, what about side valves............

[riffer]

hey, what about side valves............

Definitely ghey.

And slow...

[hospitalfood]

Definitely ghey.

And slow...

slow yes but you can't call a side valve ghey

[sidecar bob]

If you always wanted one as a kid, or your dad had one, that dosent automaticaly make it classic.

[Voltaire]

If you always wanted one as a kid, or your dad had one, that dosent automaticaly make it classic.

My Dad had a Morris Oxford, Morris 1800 and an Austin A60..and I got my licence in a Morris 1300 ( the fast one, not the 1100 cc pos).....put me of British cars for life.
.....oh he did have a brand new HQ Holden Premier in metalic Orchid...purple to you lot ( $ 5500.00 in 1973) that I spent many an hour driving ( hooning) when I got my licence..... a real boy racers car from back in the day.
I inherited his 4 cylinder Comodore .......put me off Australian cars....

[DEATH_INC.]

A REAL classic is when it's worth more now than when it was new.....pretty good rule of thumb I reckon...

[Dodgyiti]

... a real boy racers car from back in the day.
....

Sorry Voltaire, but the Holden boy racer's car from back in the day was the 6 cyl Torana, and it had better not be an auto
we all wrapped them around power poles to ensure their rarity today...

[Ixion]

Of course OHC will never be classic - they brought about a major decline in motorcycle quality...it was the beginning of the end.Ban all OHC bikes from classic status!

Oi ! What about the cammy Velos ?