Scared to ride

[Maki]

The way things are I am scared to ride a pushbike. I feel much more in control of my destiny when I am on a motorcycle. If you are on a pushbike you are not traveling at the same speed as the flow of traffic and there is no throttle to twist to get you out of trouble.

I actually think that you are safer on a motorcycle than on a pushbike, at least of your ride cautiously. Would you agree? I suppose statistics will show much higher rates of death and injury for motorcycles than for pushbikes but I still think motorcycling is safer in a way.

I know it ain't going to happen but would it not be fair that cyclists pay an ACC levy for doing what they do?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10599817

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10599851

[Grahameeboy]

The way things are I am scared to ride a pushbike. I feel much more in control of my destiny when I am on a motorcycle. If you are on a pushbike you are not traveling at the same speed as the flow of traffic and there is no throttle to twist to get you out of trouble.

I actually think that you are safer on a motorcycle than on a pushbike, at least of your ride cautiously. Would you agree? I suppose statistics will show much higher rates of death and injury for motorcycles than for pushbikes but I still think motorcycling is safer in a way.

I know it ain't going to happen but would it not be fair that cyclists pay an ACC levy for doing what they do?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10599817

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10599851

I agree and we stop at red lights so safer

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Hope the ACC form says push bike accident and not motorcycle... if not no wonder our ACC is so high

(Havng never claimed ACC in 16 years of riding I wouldn't no but I guess there is a box for push bike)

I think the cyclists have to wear the same safety gear as us, have daytime running lights and ACC (same amout as us as it a high risk) hell why they are at it even rego levies as the are using the road.


See I feel sorry for the cyclists as does the rest of the country... bet if the car took out three motorcyctlists under the same circumstances most of NZ would be saying bloody hoon motorcyclists even though it wasn't there fault... and the car ran a stop sign...And I wonder why that is...

[mowgli]

"It's my firm belief that if they can't close a road for an hour early in the morning..."

That about sums up the cyclist attitude to road use

[marty]

fuck here we go again.

i'll pay ACC levies for cycling when rugby/league/soccer/netball/tennis/rowing/motorcross riders etc start too.

oh that's right, i already pay 1.3% ACC earner levy in my PAYE. how much more do you suggest?

[crazyhorse]

Be safer for all if cyclists rode single file - not think that they own the road, and push the cars and motorcyclists into the path of oncoming vehicles.

And they wonder why cars drive into them...... hmmmmmmm

[Maki]

fuck here we go again.

i'll pay ACC levies for cycling when rugby/league/soccer/netball/tennis/rowing/motorcross riders etc start too.

oh that's right, i already pay 1.3% ACC earner levy in my PAYE. how much more do you suggest?

Oh yes, bring it on. I am a firm believer in levying and taxing those who engage in a brutal sport like thugby to the hilt. Why should the public pay for unnecessary injuries incurred while they risk their necks playing a game?

[Grahameeboy]

Be safer for all if cyclists rode single file - not think that they own the road, and push the cars and motorcyclists into the path of oncoming vehicles.

And they wonder why cars drive into them...... hmmmmmmm

Agree cyclists think they can do what they like...dogs are registered...cars are...bikes are...maybe cyclists should be...

[Grahameeboy]

Oh yes, bring it on. I am a firm believer in levying and taxing those who engage in a brutal sport like thugby to the hilt. Why should the public pay for unnecessary injuries incurred while they risk their necks playing a game?

Non-fault dude...means the Country can do what it likes and not be accountable for outcomes silly...that's NZ today

[crazyhorse]

Agree cyclists think they can do what they like...dogs are registered...cars are...bikes are...maybe cyclists should be...

Maybe there should be a rode code for cyclists :

[Laxi]

Non-fault dude...means the Country can do what it likes and not be accountable for outcomes silly...that's NZ today

the problem is that if ACC turned around and slaped a levey on rugby clubs, the same people that complain about them not paying ACC, would just start complaining about the "nana state"

[Grahameeboy]

Maybe there should be a rode code for cyclists :

There is....

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/roadcode/abo...-cyclists.html

[Grahameeboy]

the problem is that if ACC turned around and slaped a levey on rugby clubs, the same people that complain about them not paying ACC, would just start complaining about the "nana state"

That's NZ today as I said...how NZers can complain about a Nana State here of all places is just head in sand stuff eh

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Non-fault dude...means the Country can do what it likes and not be accountable for outcomes silly...

and that is why ACC is flawed

[Grahameeboy]

and that is why ACC is flawed

I agree..............my Daughter would be better off under ACC...I certainly think that ACC should penalise drink drivers....sport..well...the injuries are not quite so pre meditated