Estimating others' abilities?

**NDORFN** · 9th October 2009, 20:01

Originally Posted by carver

sometimes, when riding fast, you assume that the person in front of you is as capable as you, however, recently, i have had a few close calls when this has turned out not to be so.
usually when overtaking on the outside mid corner.
it seems to scare people, but one you get to the straights it a game of full throttle drags!

what to do?

Why you're not a mentor yet is beyond me

**YellowDog** · 9th October 2009, 20:14

**Deano** · 9th October 2009, 20:21

Originally Posted by carver

sure do, 260+ kph aint really my thing

Get the fuck outta here

**Maha** · 9th October 2009, 20:45

Originally Posted by carver

260+ kph aint really my thing

But Fundraising is ??....

**BMWST?** · 9th October 2009, 21:33

i pass other motorcyclists in the same way i would pass any other vehicle,ie i use the other lane.I wouldnt pass an unknown to me rider mid corner closely,unless i had followed them through a few bends and thereby assess them

**Chrislost** · 9th October 2009, 21:43

Originally Posted by carver

sometimes, when riding fast, you assume that the person in front of you is as capable as you, however, recently, i have had a few close calls when this has turned out not to be so.
usually when overtaking on the outside mid corner.
it seems to scare people, but one you get to the straights it a game of full throttle drags!

what to do?

Just go flying up the inside of them, and if they flinch they are not as good as you assumed.

**Cr1MiNaL** · 10th October 2009, 00:41

Originally Posted by beyond

Ride with me mate

Like Ixion, I find no problem when overtaking on the outside of the corner as long as you can see all is clear and it's done safely.

Totally agree here, overtaking on wide sweeping corners is quite alright by me so long as your sensible about it. I recently overtook a lesser experienced rider on a much smaller bike mid corner doing about twice the speed she was doing and was hoping my pipes would not unsettle anyone. Turns out it didn't as I did it as safely as possible. Of cause with the R1 I wait for the straights as Gixxer thous don't really stand much of a chance once I shift up to 2nd

**CookMySock** · 10th October 2009, 06:33

Originally Posted by carver

overtaking like that is easy as long as everything goes according to plan

Everything doesn't always go to plan, and then you are hanging by a thread. Haven't you learned your lesson yet? Going hard on the open road in groups is asking for trouble. Y'know, blood, hair, and bone on the road.. some people silent and some people screaming.. Haven't you seen enough of that? Don't you remember what it looked and smelled like and how you felt about it? You felt sick didn't you? The worst kind of sick...

Sounds to me like you need to get on the track more regularly, and blow it out of your system.

Steve

**Biggles08** · 10th October 2009, 07:00

Originally Posted by carver

sometimes, when riding fast, you assume that the person in front of you is as capable as you, however, recently, i have had a few close calls when this has turned out not to be so.
usually when overtaking on the outside mid corner.
it seems to scare people, but one you get to the straights it a game of full throttle drags!

what to do?

Getting to close to any other rider on the road is just simply a dumb idea unless you know them and their skills....stay riding with those you know and are comfortable with. Personally I ended up disliking group rides completely because they were usually filled up with young, dumb full of cum riders who seemed to think they were V. Rossi.... ended up riding with a small group of the same riders more and understood thier style.

**The Stranger:Me** · 10th October 2009, 07:10

Originally Posted by AllanB

Interesting post ...........

Take your time mate. Oddly enough it's not a race!

For gods sake, hello, it's not serious, it's a piss take.
Estimating others' abilities, if you ride/drive based on your estimate of others' abilities you know damn well how that's going to end, and well Carver knows that.

He's obviously been riding with raj again and just wanting to wind him up to see how much bullshit raj will spout and as we can see, it worked.

**Madness** · 10th October 2009, 08:06

Originally Posted by The Stranger

He's obviously been riding with raj again and just wanting to wind him up to see how much bullshit raj will spout and as we can see, it worked.

Like he needs prompting.

Thought of the day: Korma's a bitch.

**mossy1200** · 10th October 2009, 08:32

I see my next pass victim early and prepare my pass manoeuvre ,be it a cage or gl145.
Quick as a flash I change down one gear from top to 4th.
I role that throttle on full letting the acceleration rapidly crawl from 95 to 110.
Knowing I have almost half a km to get this done the excitement wells up and the indicators go on.Edge past and the deed is done.

**Murray** · 10th October 2009, 09:04

Originally Posted by carver

sometimes, when riding fast, you assume that the person in front of you is as capable as you, however, recently, i have had a few close calls when this has turned out not to be so.
usually when overtaking on the outside mid corner.
it seems to scare people, but one you get to the straights it a game of full throttle drags!

what to do?

Surely no one else has your capabilities so theres no need for you to assume???

**AllanB** · 10th October 2009, 10:26

Originally Posted by The Stranger

For gods sake, hello, it's not serious, it's a piss take.
Estimating others' abilities, if you ride/drive based on your estimate of others' abilities you know damn well how that's going to end, and well Carver knows that.

He's obviously been riding with raj again and just wanting to wind him up to see how much bullshit raj will spout and as we can see, it worked.

Maybe maybe not .... I see riders doing what he described every second or third ride I'm on, so there are plenty of inconsiderate ones out there giving little thought to their actions.

**carver** · 10th October 2009, 10:49

Originally Posted by AllanB

Interesting post ...........

Take your time mate. Oddly enough it's not a race!

If you find yourself in the twisties behind the slower rider back off a bit and do not crowd their rear like some anus-loving-arse-bandit - all this will do is rattle them, possibly to the point of making a serious mistake.

I hate it when someone is riding my rear tyre like that.

After a couple of corners they will know you are back there and you can get pass on the next safe and clear opportunity - chances are they'll tuck in to the left for you to make it safer (that's what I'd do).

Then if they catch up with you at the next stop your more likely to get the thumbs up and a 'good skills mate' other than a 'fuck your a ..........'

i usually pul;l over and let the dude past, then overtake him again in the next set of corners

Originally Posted by NDORFN

Why you're not a mentor yet is beyond me

yeah, maybe its because i have not applied yet

Originally Posted by Maha

But Fundraising is ??....

only for the mormons

Originally Posted by Chrislost

Just go flying up the inside of them, and if they flinch they are not as good as you assumed.

yeah, while rolling a stoppie

Originally Posted by YamahaR64Life

Totally agree here, overtaking on wide sweeping corners is quite alright by me so long as your sensible about it. I recently overtook a lesser experienced rider on a much smaller bike mid corner doing about twice the speed she was doing and was hoping my pipes would not unsettle anyone. Turns out it didn't as I did it as safely as possible. Of cause with the R1 I wait for the straights as Gixxer thous don't really stand much of a chance once I shift up to 2nd

well, i had a good fun time on the way back from the cold kiwi, and it was safe as.

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

Everything doesn't always go to plan, and then you are hanging by a thread. Haven't you learned your lesson yet? Going hard on the open road in groups is asking for trouble. Y'know, blood, hair, and bone on the road.. some people silent and some people screaming.. Haven't you seen enough of that? Don't you remember what it looked and smelled like and how you felt about it? You felt sick didn't you? The worst kind of sick...

Sounds to me like you need to get on the track more regularly, and blow it out of your system.

Steve

Im sure i will see more of it, but to be honest, i didnt feel sick.
some dude made a mistake and payed the price for it.
i just thought, "i better not make that mistake"

Originally Posted by Biggles08

Getting to close to any other rider on the road is just simply a dumb idea unless you know them and their skills....stay riding with those you know and are comfortable with. Personally I ended up disliking group rides completely because they were usually filled up with young, dumb full of cum riders who seemed to think they were V. Rossi.... ended up riding with a small group of the same riders more and understood thier style.

yeah, it is usually group rides where accidents occur

Originally Posted by Murray

Surely no one else has your capabilities so theres no need for you to assume???

hmmm, i know your taking the piss, but i like riding with people of similar or better skill levels