Doing a runner just got more attractive

[YellowDog]

I hate getting stopped by the Police and generally try my best to avoid it.

In saying that, if a cop car wants to stop me I am always going to stop and I am never going to try and do a runner.

I suspect that more than 90% of riders are the same.

So the new law is only there to assist a small percentage of those it should not.

Isn't that know as 'aiding and abetting' a crime?

[Usarka]

It's only a pursuit when you know you're being chased.

[breakaway]

I don't think most of the posters understand why people do runners - I don't think anyone here would just run for the hell of it - they probably have nothing to lose. Probably disqualfied, on a bike with no WoF and rego, and got pinged doing 200+. Why not? The penalties for running are way worse but they probably don't see it that way

[ital916]

You would be first on scene of many RTA

So very similar to a motorcycle group ride then.

[Danae]

On a side note, I wish there were ambulance bikes in nz, then I would apply to be a motorcycle paramedic. That would a cool job.

There are motorcycle paramedics.

[Swoop]

So the real bottom line is: Don't do it. If you do it, just know that it is a real game of "Russian Roulette".

I think we established that in this thread.

[Taz]

just dont get too excited and be moderate in your escape...
its not that hard!

Just don't brag about it and post it up on the interweb with a pretty picture of yourself.

[Ixion]

It's only a pursuit when you know you're being chased.

Very true, actually.

I've never done a runner , with the cop behind with lights and sirens.

But I have done dodgers. "Shit. Bugger. But - he's got to stop, turn round, get back into the traffic. He won't have gotten my plate. If I can get round that corner ahead, then down that street to the right, then down the lane behind the factories, and along the foottrack, I'll be well out of sight before he gets on my tail. "

I'd always stop (I think) for reds and blues behind me. But If I'm tucked away out of sight down a side road, and I see (or hear) the cop heading off into the distance (down the first turning on the left maybe), well, that's another matter.

I didn't KNOW I was being pursued. For all I knew the cop might have decided not to bother. Nothing says I have to stop and wait IN CASE he decides he wants a word.

[Ender EnZed]

Very true, actually.

I've never done a runner , with the cop behind with lights and sirens.

But I have done dodgers. "Shit. Bugger. But - he's got to stop, turn round, get back into the traffic. He won't have gotten my plate. If I can get round that corner ahead, then down that street to the right, then down the lane behind the factories, and along the foottrack, I'll be well out of sight before he gets on my tail. "

I'd always stop (I think) for reds and blues behind me. But If I'm tucked away out of sight down a side road, and I see (or hear) the cop heading off into the distance (down the first turning on the left maybe), well, that's another matter.

I didn't KNOW I was being pursued. For all I knew the cop might have decided not to bother. Nothing says I have to stop and wait IN CASE he decides he wants a word.

What would the legal situation be if he guessed right and found you?

[Ixion]

Buggered if I know. Not good, but, given a good brief, not as bad as actually running from the reds and blues.

[vtec]

If given options, cops generally assume you've turned left, as that is usually the easiest and most invisible option if you've gotten out of sight... so I reckon turn right to get away. Or just use a footbridge. or park thoroughfare.

[Ixion]

Never take the first left. A wise rider keeps a little list of good dodge points. Parks and footbridges are good but ONLY if the far side is not easily accessible. Most parks, if you ride through them, the cop can probably get around the side quick enough to pick you up when you come out. Or, even, follow you.

Footbridges ditto. Ones that cross a river are usually good.

[Mikkel]

What would the legal situation be if he guessed right and found you?

Absolutely no different than if you had waited for him... after all, you are free to go exactly where you want on the public roads.

You are only obliged to pull over and stop in two cases:

1) Being followed by a car with blue and red lights.
2) Being signalled to stop by a uniformed police officer. (Him sitting in a car and waving at you would be very difficult to spot when you are paying attention to the traffic around you.)

In case 1) I would pull left and slow down, not stop - but wave the copper past. Surely he couldn't possibly be wanting to pull me over - I have done nothing wrong...

[SixPackBack]

Very true, actually.

I've never done a runner , with the cop behind with lights and sirens.

But I have done dodgers. "Shit. Bugger. But - he's got to stop, turn round, get back into the traffic. He won't have gotten my plate. If I can get round that corner ahead, then down that street to the right, then down the lane behind the factories, and along the foottrack, I'll be well out of sight before he gets on my tail. "

I'd always stop (I think) for reds and blues behind me. But If I'm tucked away out of sight down a side road, and I see (or hear) the cop heading off into the distance (down the first turning on the left maybe), well, that's another matter.

I didn't KNOW I was being pursued. For all I knew the cop might have decided not to bother. Nothing says I have to stop and wait IN CASE he decides he wants a word.

Thanks Ixion......."Doing a dodger" needs adding to the KB vernacular.

[scumdog]

If given options, cops generally assume you've turned left, as that is usually the easiest and most invisible option if you've gotten out of sight... so I reckon turn right to get away. Or just use a footbridge. or park thoroughfare.

Hell, I always turned right - you could see better what was coming and you didn't end up on the wrong side of the road, still, whatever spins your crank..