No rego, no ACC cover!

**terbang** · 23rd October 2009, 17:29

Originally Posted by st00ji

for some reason i had this vague impression that riding or driving a vehicle that had its rego on hold (effectively disallowed from public road use) was viewed more seriously than just being snapped with your registration out of date. like bigger fines and possible confiscation

I got pulled over on a bike with rego on hold, cops didn't seem too worried, scratched their heads for a while, nailed me for the speeding and no rego and sent me on my way. All up, including the speeding, $430 so cheaper than the proposed rego. Bike rego is still on hold though I keep the Wofs up.

**Mikkel** · 23rd October 2009, 20:29

Operating an un-registrered vehicle is not a criminal offense as far as I understand. And neither is speeding... dunno about dangerous driving, but I doubt even that.

Failing to stop on the other hand most likely is.

**kwaka_crasher** · 23rd October 2009, 22:10

Originally Posted by sleemanj

No demerits. Fine is about $250 I think from memory.

$200.

Originally Posted by Brett

Only problem...let is lapse and your bike is dereg'd. Thus no longer able to get warrants etc. and thus no insurance. Much tho I would LOVE to use your approach!

You can get an exemption from continuous licensing and, best of all, it's FREE!

Originally Posted by vifferman

I already have medical insurance, so I'd quite happily opt to not pay the ACC component of the rego, and sort myself out if I'm damaged.

Your medical insurance at this time will not cover accident injuries because you're expected to be covered by ACC.

Originally Posted by Ixion

Technically correct, but misleading. You need a live rego to get a warrant, but technically the rego is the bike being in the system (ie it has a live plate).

Actually, you don't even need a plate, much less a live one - a WoF can be issued for an unregistered motorvehicle. The chassis number, or if it exists the VIN, is used instead of the registration plate.

Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ

Technically even with no rego you are still covered as you pay ACC via PAYE and fuel...?

You're covered because it's a no-fault system.

**BMWST?** · 24th October 2009, 15:14

Originally Posted by GSVR

Dead right! The vehicle doesn't recieve any ACC compensation so why does the vehicle have to pay. I've always said it should be the driver that pays the levy with their licence fees.

that is fair comment but the levy would automatically go up for everyone.If you have a sum of money didvided by licenses then it would obviously go up as many people have multiple vehicles.

**GSVR** · 25th October 2009, 06:59

Originally Posted by BMWST?

that is fair comment but the levy would automatically go up for everyone.If you have a sum of money didvided by licenses then it would obviously go up as many people have multiple vehicles.

So your telling me that if you own more than one vehicle you have to subsidise everyone that doesn't? Yet to see a person drive two cars or ride two bikes at the same time.

Fees should be based on what classes of licence you hold and a huge component of ACC should be in the fuel as powerful vehicles and hard driving use more fuel. Its the big powerful bikes and cars that have the serious accidents right. Plus more time on the road means your more likely to have an accident even if its not your fault.

My regos going on hold. But you can bet your last dollar that the govt. will fix that too.

**Grahameeboy** · 25th October 2009, 07:13

Originally Posted by oldrider

Hit out against something big that the government cherishes I.E. Rugby World Cup!

Threaten to disrupt the traffic during that event and start demonstrating how, now!

Motorcyclists Unite, now!

I like that one.....

**Wonko** · 25th October 2009, 08:16

One problem with not paying rego is that if/when you need to pay the rego it is backdated to when the rego ran out. Much better to put it on hold(min 3 months)

**davereid** · 25th October 2009, 08:34

Ptting the rego on hold may be at the discretion of NZTA. You fill out an application to put rego on hold. I would assume that the application could be declined if NZTA wished.

**Ixion** · 25th October 2009, 09:30

Nope. Not discretionary. So long as you fill it in right it must be granted

Transport (Vehicle Registration and Licensing) Regulations 1994 (SR 1994/244)

Sect 3C (3) On receipt of a properly completed application, the Secretary must grant an exemption from section 5(1A)(a) of the Act for such period not less than 3 months and not more than 12 months as the Secretary thinks fit.

**Bangbug** · 25th October 2009, 10:25

http://msn.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10605244

Hey look a quad bike accident... how much ACC was he paying on that?
Oh and look at the multiple injuries with only 2 cars.
And look at all those bike fatalities!!! OMG hundreds.... wait.... they must be there somewhere..... i'm sure of it.... the TV tells me so

**Bangbug** · 25th October 2009, 10:26

Originally Posted by oldrider
Hit out against something big that the government cherishes I.E. Rugby World Cup!

Threaten to disrupt the traffic during that event and start demonstrating how, now!

Motorcyclists Unite, now!

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

I like that one.....

oh fucking + 1

**Goblin** · 25th October 2009, 10:46

Originally Posted by terbang

I got pulled over on a bike with rego on hold, cops didn't seem too worried, scratched their heads for a while, nailed me for the speeding and no rego and sent me on my way. All up, including the speeding, $430 so cheaper than the proposed rego. Bike rego is still on hold though I keep the Wofs up.

I was caught riding with my rego on hold a few times and the last time the cop told me I could be in deep shit for using a document for fraudulent purposes or something to that effect. Still worth keeping rego on hold if the proposed changes do actually happen tho. As long as one doesn't draw attention to ones self, one shouldn't get pulled up.