BIKOI - When?

[klingon]

No legislation to get through, it's a Minister's decision...

Oh yes - you posted this while I was working out my post.

You're right of course - it's the other changes to ACC that need legislation changes. The levy we're talking about is already enshrined in legislation, and the Minister can decide on the amount any time he likes.

[Ixion]

http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/MPP/Parties/

It's all a numbers game. There are 122 MPs so 61 votes are needed to pass any piece of legislation.

National = 58 MPs
Labour = 43
Greens = 9
Act = 5
Maori Party = 5
Progressive = 1
United Future = 1

So if National can count on the support of either Act or the Maori Party, the legislation will go through. No individual National MP is going to put his/her job on the line by voting against the Govt.

Yes, but in this case there is no legislation. You're thinking of the amending ACC legislation that Smith is currently trying to put together. That's a completely different matter to our issue.

ACC levies are just signed off by the Minister under regulations.

So, if a few Nat MPs come along and whisper in his ear "Gee, Nick, don't you think we're upsetting those bikers a bit much, they've got votes remember, and there seem to be an awful lot of them in my electorate that are really pissed off with us. Just saying, for the good of the party, like", then Mr Smith may think a bit harder about the wisdom of said signing off.

[Mom]

Yeah, well. I've heard about your boss......

I have met him, reasonable bloke in the flesh, but dodgy as bro

If I had a dollar............

Me too, me too

Well this noob poster but long time rider might be keen to make the journey to Wellington. Probably others from the SI. But where the hell would everyone stay? Under the stars? What if it's pissing down?


Or maybe just keep an eye out for a local bikoi...
Except, no parliament down here to make as much of an impact.

Dont stress too much about that, there are bikers around Welly that will offer up couches /beds/floors etc closer to time Great bunch those Welly mob

[Mom]

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Give me some thoughts please folks. Then I'll put up a poll to choose between the popular options. It would probably help if you indicate what area you are coming from

Just a heads up Ixion. I am on first name basis with. and have the 24/7 mobile number of the motoring journalist for the Harold. He is not anti bike and loves a good story

I may, or may not have a heap of other media contacts too

Whistle out, happy to make contact with people

[Mully]

True, very true, now where does Rodney Hyde hide?

Isn't he the member for Parnell - near a certain Mr Key's whare?

Waitakere could be a starter too (and a Minister)- what true Westy wouldn't be pro bike.

We could probably get Paula Bennett to go pillion... She seems like she would. I'm happy to deliver anything (legal) to Ms Bennet if we go that way.

And David Cunliffe is gunning for the top Labour job - he'll media whore for anyone. So will Lynne Pillay to desperately keep herself relevant (specially since she thought her seat was safe last year.....) Phil Goff's a waste of skin, so no point in asking him to help. (less popular than "margin of error" as I understand)

[cheesemethod]

Anybody feel like crashing a party tomorrow?
http://www.national.org.nz/Events/Di...x?EventID=1554

[Ixion]

The more media the better. Once we have firm dates n such wheel them in

Is there any particular date sthat are better/badder from a media point of view - eg do they all spend Friday getting pissed or such like?

In the meantime, you COULD start dropping mysterious hints about "this BIKEOI things that's going down next month . Any idea what it is ? "

[taff1954]

And of the Naki crew fancy a wee ride to the National party headquarters in New Plymouth?

More than happy to let Mr. Young know that there's more than a few people here in the 'Naki who won't want to vote National..........

[cheesemethod]

I also work for a media establishment and will be letting the news producer know all the details.

[Ixion]

3pm . Mangere. Sounds like a starter, if we could must a decent roundup of bikes. We'd need at least a hundred or so to be impressive.

Won't get near him. too many cops with bangbangs round him. But if they have to smuggle him out the back way , he's bound to ask why.

Nothing illegal, of course . Just citizens exercising their civl right to congreate, and protest.

Could be a good chance to kick off.

Weathers ungood , but.

We'd need some banners.

And we STILL don't have a slogan.

[Ixion]

More than happy to let Mr. Young know that there's more than a few people here in the 'Naki who won't want to vote National..........

Can you set up a date? Next few weeks or so?

We'll do a media release beforehand. Which means that there'll probably be a cop presence when you get there, but that's fine. We don't want to give him the bash or anything, just point out that he's pissing off the people he depends on for his cushy mealticket.

[klingon]

3pm . Mangere. Sounds like a starter, if we could must a decent roundup of bikes. We'd need at least a hundred or so to be impressive.

Won't get near him. too many cops with bangbangs round him. But if they have to smuggle him out the back way , he's bound to ask why.

Nothing illegal, of course . Just citizens exercising their civl right to congreate, and protest.

Could be a good chance to kick off.

Weathers ungood , but.

We'd need some banners.

And we STILL don't have a slogan.

This event needs a new thread. Yay! Bikoi Part I

[cs363]

Hm. Auckland Central has GOT to be a starter - all those scooters!

Nikki Kaye is a mountain biker, so may have some sympathy for two wheelers?

[taff1954]

KBers in the 'Naki PM me, let's see if we can get the ball rolling here..........

[cs363]

KBers in the 'Naki PM me, let's see if we can get the ball rolling here..........

Should start a new thread on that, discuss the best date and then put an entry in the KB calendar. Then people can add their names to the list of riders.