ACC backdown

**Brian d marge** · 27th October 2009, 18:09

Originally Posted by Cloggy

Not all bad news though is it:

"The amendments will set a final date for fully funding the residual claims liabilities of 31 March 2019 for the Work and Earners’ Accounts and 30 June 2019 for the Motor Vehicle Account."

That means the levies don't need to go through the roof right? The original date set was 2014.

As in paid off,,,, of top of head ,,someone please correct , the levies kick in next year

if its passed

Stephen

**Paul in NZ** · 27th October 2009, 18:11

Originally Posted by R6_kid

So they aren't going to rape us after all?

Lets hope not, we couldnt get any compo for rape now...

**Zuki lover** · 27th October 2009, 18:16

Originally Posted by James Deuce

Why? What are you going to do?

Be tough like you and fight to the end

**sunhuntin** · 27th October 2009, 18:17

Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ

touchy subject... but to the counsellors I am sure they will be saying yes they do...

this is exactly why the acc cannot cut counselling. while the kids may appear to get over it, it will hit them later on down the track.

**twotyred** · 27th October 2009, 18:18

Originally Posted by wingrider

Sorry for getting ya hopes up.
As I said it was not verified.

BUT

It shows that there starting to worry perhaps as to all the negative fallout.

LETS KEEP ON KEEPING ON

just reinforcing the discrimination,I'm afraid...

**Xaria** · 27th October 2009, 19:46

Originally Posted by Cloggy

Not all bad news though is it:

"The amendments will set a final date for fully funding the residual claims liabilities of 31 March 2019 for the Work and Earners’ Accounts and 30 June 2019 for the Motor Vehicle Account."

That means the levies don't need to go through the roof right? The original date set was 2014.

So what changes are really going to happen between 31 March and 30 June? Why not make it all on the same date. 1 April like everything else they do. The government does like its April fools jokes.

**klingon** · 27th October 2009, 22:20

Originally Posted by Naki Rat

It passed its first reading about an hour back

69 votes to 53 with ACT and the Maori parties backing National.

The Maori Party always said it was going to support the bill through its first reading so this is to be expected.

**Bullitt** · 27th October 2009, 22:29

Originally Posted by Xaria

So what changes are really going to happen between 31 March and 30 June? Why not make it all on the same date. 1 April like everything else they do. The government does like its April fools jokes.

Government balance date is 30 June so its the 31 March date that makes less sense.

**Ixion** · 27th October 2009, 22:30

First readinbg?

Next stage is Select Committee?

Public can make submissions? or does urgency abolish that?

What is Maori Party position on bike levies. They are strangly silent. Even more silent are Labout party

Does anyone know where I can source a tumbril?

The next two weeks are going to be rather exciting. I haven't been this motivated in years. The spirit of Jock Barnes is moving upon the water. Bugger I wish I'd listened to him closer.

All we need now are some 44 gallon drums, and some policemen with linked arms.

**Brian d marge** · 27th October 2009, 22:40

Originally Posted by Ixion

First readinbg?

Next stage is Select Committee?

Does anyone know where I can source a tumbril?

Paris has a few lying about

A good friend Sydney Carton has been in one , a good and rather cheap form of upper class transport

As for the select committee , see the resource thread for the Committee brief ,,, the make up isn't good ( they even have a insurance expert on it )

its not a committee to see if the costs can be contained , its a see if we can privatize this puppy !

Submissions , while well needed , may be useless

A public shaming and ,,,loss of votes , may be the only way

Stephen

**Ixion** · 27th October 2009, 22:43

Yeah, I know , select committee's a setup. Wasn't planning on getting much out of it. Except maybe for one little point.

Select committee, what laws relate to it? It's part of parliament , right? Under the control of the Speaker? or ordinary cops?

**Brian d marge** · 27th October 2009, 23:30

Doesn't the chair of the committee ( David Caygil) report to the Speaker of the house ( Lockwood Smith ...who is doing a great Job as speaker ! )

Stephen

**Ixion** · 27th October 2009, 23:37

Well, personally I wish he'd shut up.

What I mean is , if some hypothetical person caused a bit of hows'y'father (NOT ME: I am totally innocent - just a sweet gentle innocent old man ) are they limited to the ordinary law? Or do they have special punitive powers. I seem to remember people being thrown into the Tower on the orders of Mr Speaker . Admittedly that was a few years ago.

**Brian d marge** · 27th October 2009, 23:53

Originally Posted by Ixion

Well, personally I wish he'd shut up.

What I mean is , if some hypothetical person caused a bit of hows'y'father (NOT ME: I am totally innocent - just a sweet gentle innocent old man ) are they limited to the ordinary law? Or do they have special punitive powers. I seem to remember people being thrown into the Tower on the orders of Mr Speaker . Admittedly that was a few years ago.

One assumes common law , but i will check

Stephen