Has anyone actually done an analytical report yet? If not I need stats, STAT!

[motorbyclist]

In short, after my maths exam wednesday arvo I'll finally have a moment to prepare my submission.

It's going to be in a report format, assessing the actual claim costs of motorcycling and other means of transport, and their relative revenues.

From there I'll calculate the fair cost for us and other road users to be paying. This will be based on current costs we "owe" and the latest land transport/MoT data without accounting for future growth, UNLESS information is supplied to allow me to do that.

I'll make a few assumptions you guys won't like, like that we pay for all our costs irrespective of cause, but that will be applied to ALL road users... UNLESS I can find statistics to allow an accurate calculation of costs incurred to motorcyclists from car drivers etc. asfaik this information do not exist.

Likewise, I'll be calling all capacities equal, unless there is statistically valid and significant evidence otherwise.

Cyclists, currently unlevied, will also receive a costing and various ways to apply it - most likely at point of sale and/or the current method of "cross subsidising" (spreading it across the other 2.5million road vehicles) - in order to provide a context and relativity of user costs.


Hopefully I'll come out with a number lower than the ACC proposal, but I think this is the very first thing that we should have done; accountants don't much listen to principle when there's 7 figure budgets (and 6 figure salaries) at stake.


I only ask for info as I have more exams after this one and time isn't a luxury I can afford right now.... ACC cost stats and LTSA/MoT vehicle fleet and driver licensing information are totally necessary and I've seen them before linked in this forum....


Final report will be up here for all to see. I'll be sending it where possible with requests for a response, and posting it to the wiki.


As a final section, time allowing, I may also propose a few amendments to the land transport act with regards to driver training and licencing and the ACC levy model ..... probably a waste of time but I've had several good ideas that I've floated for a while now and there's a few of them that are yet to receive a logical and/or reasonable rebuttal - my thinking it that if I'm coherent enough and well reasoned an MP (or the media) might actually do something about it.


of course, I'm assuming someone will actually read it...

[motorbyclist]

and please don't ruin this thread.

[MSTRS:Me]

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The biggest issue is that it'll all get lost in the sea of half-arsed, illogical and ill-thought replies that these poor MPs have been barraged with lately.....

and please don't ruin this thread.

You just did. Stats are one thing, sentiment (anger) is quite another. Dissing people who have an opinion is not gonna win you support.

[Ragingrob]

You just did. Stats are one thing, sentiment (anger) is quite another. Dissing people who have an opinion is not gonna win you support.

Stats seem to be very easily swayed by sentiment from what I've seen/heard some media/politicians quote

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Stats seem to be very easily swayed by sentiment from what I've seen/heard some media/politicians quote

The trick with Stats is you start with the figure you want and work your calculations to fit the figure

[Ixion]

That's how ACC work !

[motorbyclist]

You just did. Stats are one thing, sentiment (anger) is quite another. Dissing people who have an opinion is not gonna win you support.

my apologies - I didn't mean to offend, just to point out I'm being realistic (or cynical) in the likelyhood of anyone important even taking the time to read and then care about a several page report.


On that note, KB has entertained some seriously flawed reasoning on this issue lately - and I've always been a bit iffy about politicians receiving several thousand of the same email. It's no surprise that national is giving copy/paste replies.... there's just so much volume and much of it boils down to "I don't wanna pay more" without any sound justification despite the fact that the proposals are clearly unfair.

I've edited it to be a bit less snarky....

[MSTRS:Me]

But not everyone has an understanding of how numbers work. They do, however, understand how someone else's numbers will impact on their pocket. They have a right to vent at those causing the angst. Their submissions are just as important as yours or mine is, with all the numbers 'analysed' from our perspective.

[motorbyclist]

But not everyone has an understanding of how numbers work. They do, however, understand how someone else's numbers will impact on their pocket. They have a right to vent at those causing the angst. Their submissions are just as important as yours or mine is, with all the numbers 'analysed' from our perspective.

very good point - I would bling ya but I seem to have exhausted my rep for the day already....

[ratfink]

Stats seem to be very easily swayed by sentiment from what I've seen/heard some media/politicians quote

Winston Churchill said there are three types of lies. Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics

[davereid]

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[MSTRS:Me]

Last line, Section 5 needs to read 'a little more than'

[davereid]

Last line, Section 5 needs to read 'a little more than'

We both bad. You mean last line section 6 lol..

But I cant change it, KB wont let me re-up the file.

[MSTRS:Me]

Doh! Read as one section per page...

[bogan]

We both bad. You mean last line section 6 lol..

But I cant change it, KB wont let me re-up the file.

go advanced edit post, manage attachments, and remove the original, then upload the new one in its place. From doing the flyer I know this process well!