ACC ad in Dominion Nov 5 (now with 100% more PDF)

[riffer]

Riffer you legend! You Rock

Mate, all I'm doing is just sending emails quoting information that a whole lot of people working harder than me are coming up with.

Full credit to those doing the number crunching. Any idiot can send an email.

[Ozzie]

Reply from my letter to Phil Goff:

I am writing on behalf of the Hon Phil Goff to thank you for your email about the ACC ads in this morning's papers.
I am attaching a copy of the media statement which Labour's ACC spokepserson, Hon David Parker, has issued in response to the ad.
many thanks for writing

Where's my reply?

[yungatart]

woot. This is going international.

I think ACC may have made a tactical mistake.

And now Labour has brought in that the government really wants to "punish motorcyclists for their lifestyle" !

And saying that the consultation is a sham. They aren't pulling their punches

That's dynamite!

Give them enough rope they might hang themselves!

[Str8 Jacket]

Mate, all I'm doing is just sending emails quoting information that a whole lot of people working harder than me are coming up with.

Full credit to those doing the number crunching. Any idiot can send an email.

When/where is it being released?

[Ixion]

I emailed Mr parker

Dear Mr Parker.

I am President of BRONZ Auckland,. We are strongly involved in the current protest action regarding the proposed ACC levies for motorcycles.

We are advised that , because ACC propose to introduce new levy classifications, for different sizes of motorcycle, the Minister is obliged to consult with appropriate persons or groups under S 330 of the Act.
This is a different matter to a simple increase in the dollar amount of levies, which only requires the ACC to consult with the public under S 331 of the Act.

To date to our knowledge , no significant representative group within the motorcycling community has been approached by the Minister for such consultation.

Are you able to confirm our understanding?

Thanks

Best regards

Les Mason
President
BRONZ Auckland

How would have dreamed that a simple "slug the bikies" tax grab would blow up so big.

[Ozzie]

Where's my reply?

Just came through, almost an exact copy, but gotta say, put a big smile on my face.

[PrincessBandit]

My thoughts:

Point 1 "Why are motorcyclists being singled out?" Answer: They're not.....

I would like to know the extent which other ACC user groups are being screwed like we are.

Point 2 "Why are m'cyclists being asked to pay more?" Answer: Because the levies they previously paid weren't enough to cover the cost of the injuries they suffered.
Ummm, how many other user groups would fall into the same category?

Point 3 "Will m'cyclists now be paying the full cost...." Answer : No, even with the increase they will only be meeting 21% of their claim costs.
Again, how many other user groups fully cover their claim costs?

Point 4: "Who's been covering their costs?" Answer: Other road users, and they will still be cross subsidising m'cyclists.
Most of us own cars too, therefore cross subsidise ourselves! Not to mention that WE"RE subsidising cyclists, pedestrians who are hit on the road, bloody hell who knows who else.

Point 6: Risk factor. - Where is the same increase for cyclists, horse riders, hang gliders, skaters etc.

Point 7: I love their "millions of dollars in rehab" - what blatant hyperbole. It's as if every motorcyclist who has an accident is going to cost "millions" What bs - lots who have accidents don't ever bother getting medical treatment let alone ACC.

Point 8: Why should only "road users on public roads" be singled out? In fact, more to the point why should only motorcyclists on public roads be singled out?

Point 9: I love this one. Yeah, how many of us let every Tom Dick and Harry ride our bikes? The fact that someone could steal our bike and cause an accident makes us responsible? Tui.....

[riffer]

Who would have dreamed that a simple "slug the bikies" tax grab would blow up so big.

Yes again a perfect case of underestimating your target. Nice to know we are still so "underground". I kind of like that.

[GOONR]

Just came through, almost an exact copy, but gotta say, put a big smile on my face.

Just got my reply from his office too. I sent mine to Keith Locke as well, seems he is the Greens transport spokesperson for Auckland. Wonder if I will get an answer from him.

[wingrider]

My Email to Nathan Guy, My local MP
Entitled Misuse of Public Funds.

Sir,

I am a very angry Motorcyclist.

I was deeply offended by the advertisement that appeared in both this morning's issues of the Dominion Post and the Herald, relating to ACC entitled ACC explains proposed Motorcycle Levies.

This advert is so full of the continued inaccuracies published by both ACC and your Minister.

I regard this as a clear breach of the guidelines set out in the ministerial handbook relating to advertising. I am advised that these rules cover both Heads of Gov, Departments and the Minister himself, with the onus on the Minister to ensure that all advertising is presented as Accurate, Factual and Truthful.

As a constituent, taxpayer and also payer of ACC levies I demand that you publicly disassociate yourself from these comments and publicly make your Minister aware of the situation.
To do less I will consider as a dereliction of your duties as my elected representative.
I also expect your Minister to apologise to the Public of NZ for allowing such misrepresentation of the facts to be published. He also needs to hold the authors of this advert accountable for their actions publicly.

In the last election I voted for you and your party in "Good Faith" believing that you were listening to your supporters.

Sir, no longer will I trust one comment made by yourself or your party from now on. I can also assure you that you have lost my vote and that of as many others as I can persuade.

[IdunBrokdItAgin]

I've finally got round to looking at the ad in the Dom post.

Don't know if anyone else has noticed it but well done to whoever planned the page layout. If you look at page A10 you will notice that the article at the top of the page is about the sculpture of Nick Smith made from manure.

So the article at the top of the page actually has a title in it of "Nick Smith in the shit" and below that you have a advert from the ACC desperately trying to justify his stance.

Well done that person in the Dom Post!

[Ozzie]

My Email to Nathan Guy, My local MP
Entitled Misuse of Public Funds.

Mind if I copy and paste to Judith Collins?

[Hailwood]

Just emailed Dom Post and ASA with my complaint as well

[Eddieb]

Emailed the ASA, THe Herald & Trevor Mallard as my local MP.

[k2w3]

None of this would be possible (or at least it would be extremely difficult) without the 'net. What a wonderful contraption. You can see why less open regimes around the world are so afraid of it (and probably open ones as well!).