A interesting and quite intelligent blog from Peter Dunne

[slofox]

It's actually a pity that politicians have to bitch at it other just because they're the "opposition" and can't just put their ego's aside and say "let's work out what is actually best for the country".

You said it cuzzie....but probably only happens in cloud cuckoo land....Been my pet beef for several centuries now...

[MSTRS:Me]

Interesting, Intelligent, Peter Dunne...
Never thought I'd see a sentence that mentioned all 3, and still be right.
The forces are gathering...

[Conquiztador]

Peter Dunne has always been sensible. Sadly too sensible for his own good. He tends to be forgotten as he never is front page news.

And then he, sadly, had to combine the forces with the Christians to get some momentum.

A long time ago I spent some time reading all political parties agendas and what they wanted to achieve. Most had something I agreed on, but also stuff that I would have fought. Apart from Peter Dunne (and whatever his party was called then?). I agreed to almost 100% with his look at things.

I always thought that he would make a good leader of this country.

[Ixion]

I bet he has a collection of zip up cardigans. he and Uncle Les should compare cardy notes

[Mully]

Looks like Peter Dunne can hear the braying of the mob and smell the blood.

[Ronin]

Whatever happen to the McGillicuddy Serious Party?

Now there was some genius politics.

I think they went Green

[doc]

I agree with the idea that instead of a levy on each vehicle it should be on the licence. But in my reckoning wouldnt that mean an even bigger increase in our levies. ie say 2 million vehicles to pay the levy against say only 1 million licences to suck up the same money. Surely it would cost us all more.

[Skyryder]

I think he's been on KB having a look at the lie of the land.


He's in with the Nats.....................so lets see how he votes.

I'm not holding my breath. Dunne will go with what he thinks is best for him and experiance with this man is............. we will get done.


Skyryder

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

I agree with the idea that instead of a levy on each vehicle it should be on the licence. But in my reckoning wouldnt that mean an even bigger increase in our levies. ie say 2 million vehicles to pay the levy against say only 1 million licences to suck up the same money. Surely it would cost us all more.

• Levy per driver.
• Levy on traffic infrigement which must be paid even if the actual infringement is dropped. (if 100% would generate 650million the entire traffic account)
• Levy on Wof's. ($5 for 6 months is 50 million)
• Levy on fuel.
• Levy on all vehicles being sold. Flat fee of $50 to change ownership
• * If required a token levy on the vehicle. *

This would generate more than what is being paid in to the traffic accouunt now and is spread out across the board. It would mean you could drop the rego levy or shrink it to $50 token plus on road. It targets those who are at high risk and causing the risk. Those that travel more and the one vehicle at a time argument. It would also mean it would be very difficult to work out who has paid what... which means it keeps inline with the principles of the ACC as we know and want it to be.

The thing is there will never be a 100% fair system for everyone.

[ckai]

• Levy per driver.
  
• Levy on traffic infrigement which must be paid even if the actual infringement is dropped. (if 100% would generate 650million the entire traffic account)
• Levy on Wof's. ($5 for 6 months is 50 million)
• Levy on fuel.
• Levy on all vehicles being sold. Flat fee of $50 to change ownership
• * If required a token levy on the vehicle. *

This would generate more than what is being paid in to the traffic accouunt now and is spread out across the board. It would mean you could drop the rego levy or shrink it to $50 token plus on road. It targets those who are at high risk and causing the risk. Those that travel more and the one vehicle at a time argument. It would also mean it would be very difficult to work out who has paid what... which means it keeps inline witht he principles of the ACC as we know and want it to be.

The thing is there will never be a 100% fair system for everyone.

These are good ideas. Especially like the infringment one. Makes sense. If the gov't wants to go along the lines of punish instead of educate then this would be right up their alley. Of course, all those young hoons don't pay their fines anyway

So what are the flaws? Can't see any myself but someone must do though. It is KB

[Dadpole]

Looks like Peter Dunne can hear the braying of the mob and smell the blood.

That is just Peter Dunne seeing which way the wind is blowing.
He is good at stating common sense then getting into bed with whoever offers the best deal for Peter Dunne

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

These are good ideas. Especially like the infringment one. Makes sense. If the gov't wants to go along the lines of punish instead of educate then this would be right up their alley. Of course, all those young hoons don't pay their fines anyway

So what are the flaws? Can't see any myself but someone must do though. It is KB

the flaws? well as you said the young hoons don't pay their fines anyway and they are probably in unregistered cars so no different, however the levy will always be there, and can not be dropped by the court.

the $50 dollar token vehicle levy on you rego still adds up to $145,957,550.00
the Wof is about 50mill of the total fleet incliding cars, bikes, vans, modes, buses, trucks etc
levy on the fuel bikes pay around 9million a year in acc levy not sure on total fee
change of ownership would easily make 10-20 million a year
as I sai the traffic infringement is 650 million if 100% levy.

we are nearing a billion dollars... way more than the current traffic account requires and will help the fully funded model

[Mully]

That is just Peter Dunne seeing which way the wind is blowing.
He is good at stating common sense then getting into bed with whoever offers the best deal for Peter Dunne

Yeah, that too.

But then that's why he's been around for so long.

[Conquiztador]

Yeah, that too.

But then that's why he's been around for so long.

And so you have to ask your self the question: Where can Peter Dunne have the biggest influence. From inside the government or from outside? Clearly he has sussed that out.

He does not have a strong group around him. He is a lone campaigner. That for the most speaks sense. A seasoned politician who knows how to survive, and is prepared to sell bits of his ideology to achieve the more important stuff.