Screw peaceful non-disruptive protest: Let's Cause Mayhem!

**GOONR** · 18th November 2009, 21:07

You would need a few bikes for this but how about.. get on a motorway at one junction, turn around at the next junction, repeat!

**idleidolidyll** · 18th November 2009, 21:13

Originally Posted by GOONR

You would need a few bikes for this but how about.. get on a motorway at one junction, turn around at the next junction, repeat!

a useful idea for later when we have more bikes

so far i count just over 40 registered phone numbers and lots of promises to bring mates.
if it works the word will spread

riders from Nelson, Wellington, Whakatane, Taupo, Tauranga, Auckland, Kapiti and rising every day

looking good particularly if each brings 2 or 3 riding buddies

txts to follow tomorrow

**XP@** · 18th November 2009, 21:29

Originally Posted by Deano

How do you know any KBer isn't a narc ?

Urr...

we are posting on the internet! Anyone can read what we post here, except private messages.

Expect it to be read by the cops, the press or anyone else who cares to take interest! The government and ACC probably keep searching for ammo too!

**The Joka** · 18th November 2009, 21:54

I am right into this! It is a sad day when protesting becomes PC!

I think all options weighed up... By far the best would be:

Just before rush hour Monday morning... Auckland motorway, ride into town and take a park!

This does three things...

1./ Increases the likely hood of a big turnout as people have all weekend to make their way up/down and they only have to take one day off work.

2./ Creates holy hell on the motorway

3./ when people finally get to work they cant park anywhere...

No offence meant to anyone here but taking a park on a sunday just doesnt have the same effect!

**Thani-B** · 18th November 2009, 22:21

Originally Posted by Trudes

I'm fairly sure it is illegal to go around and around a round about.

I think you are allowed to go around it 3 times before its illegal. Heard that somewhere, shall hunt for legislation for it. But a steady stream of bikes should be fine.

**idleidolidyll** · 19th November 2009, 06:23

One of the issues we are likely to have is infiltration by cops.

When you get your txt message you will be sent to a meeting area. At that meeting ask outright whether any attendees are police officers or in any way connected with the police.
If they do not own up; there is a fair case for entrapment if you are prosecuted for any offence on the protest.

Further; Some police are members of KB and it is likely that there has been an instruction by their masters to monitor this forum (KB) for evidence of disruption etc.

OUT THE POLICE! if you know any of the mobile phone numbers of the police riders here, please txt them to 021 0730316 with 'Police' in the text message or send a pm to me and I will arrange for that knowledge to be passed on.

We MAY allow right thinking cops along but we do NOT want any undercover or subversive attempts to derail us.

**Cr1MiNaL** · 19th November 2009, 08:18

I wanted to be a cop not long ago... But I would be a shit cop as I would never ticket any bike rider, so I gave up the idea. I know a few cops who would be sweet with the idea and even join in on their bikes. Shit some of those buggers have let me off for speeding, wheeling and DD. Bloody legends, considering the law is so bs at times to be enforced to the tee.

**bogan** · 19th November 2009, 08:47

another idea from this thread target media who use the facts we have proved incorrect, banners like "Learn to be a proper journo, do some factchecking" "stop being a government puppet, think for yourselves" etc, turn up at thier offices high noon the day any article using incorrect facts is printed. The protest would be aimed at those spreading the propaganda, NOT those just expressing thier own opinion.

Also, along with the text ring of people, would it be a good idea to do an email one as well? lots cheaper and easier to use that way!

**idleidolidyll** · 19th November 2009, 11:19

correct bogan

the way TV3 reported the protest at the domain last week was disgusting: they led with the rider who fell off, never said who caused the incident and went back to it again and again.

it dominated the item and the cause wwas left floundering

We really do need to target disruptions to the media itself and to the reporters as well

**Ixion** · 19th November 2009, 13:45

Originally Posted by idleidolidyll

One of the issues we are likely to have is infiltration by cops.

The classic method to detect infiltration is a trap. Send each person a "action going down" txt , with a different time or place . Note which person got which time/place. See if the cops turn up/the doors are locked etc. If they are, you know who leaked that info. There's your informer.

If you are organised on a cell basis, then each level verifies their own cell membership. So each cell leader only has maybe half a dozen people to test. So it's not very arduous.

Not condoning such action, of course.

**ital916** · 19th November 2009, 14:25

Originally Posted by Ixion

The classic method to detect infiltration is a trap. Send each person a "action going down" txt , with a different time or place . Note which person got which time/place. See if the cops turn up/the doors are locked etc. If they are, you know who leaked that info. There's your informer.

If you are organised on a cell basis, then each level verifies their own cell membership. So each cell leader only has maybe half a dozen people to test. So it's not very arduous.

Not condoning such action, of course.

operating in cells. weeding out informants and non believers.....deary me, is this ringing any bells with people haha, just joking.

I would have loved to attend some disruptive protests but alas, work on sat and sunday precludes any form of fighting for my rights. I shall spread the word though.

**Deano** · 19th November 2009, 15:30

Originally Posted by BMWST?

not for this.You will be disrupting many many more households than just the MP in question.

Might risk getting a ticket for excessive noise.

Originally Posted by XP@

Urr...

we are posting on the internet! Anyone can read what we post here, except private messages.

Expect it to be read by the cops, the press or anyone else who cares to take interest! The government and ACC probably keep searching for ammo too!

Er Doh - exactly my point. Why exclude cops when 'anyone' can log on, say they are keen to help etc, but actually work for ACC etc.

Or will you only allow participation by people you know and trust - Patrick is obviously not to be trusted ???