Screw peaceful non-disruptive protest: Let's Cause Mayhem!

[idleidolidyll]

txt to
021 0730316
to register as an activist

Don't sit around and let them get away with this bullshit

stop the cities, wake up the media, wake up the government, WAKE UP THE PUBLIC!

Nick Smith said on TV news that cars are next!

[Tank]

One of the issues we are likely to have is infiltration by cops.

When you get your txt message you will be sent to a meeting area. At that meeting ask outright whether any attendees are police officers or in any way connected with the police.
If they do not own up; there is a fair case for entrapment if you are prosecuted for any offence on the protest.

Further; Some police are members of KB and it is likely that there has been an instruction by their masters to monitor this forum (KB) for evidence of disruption etc.

OUT THE POLICE! if you know any of the mobile phone numbers of the police riders here, please txt them to 021 0730316 with 'Police' in the text message or send a pm to me and I will arrange for that knowledge to be passed on.

We MAY allow right thinking cops along but we do NOT want any undercover or subversive attempts to derail us.

I think you will find the 'ol entrapment lines are more urban myth - or have no basis in kiwi law. If its part of an investigation Im sure that they dont have to identify themselves.

Can you imagine - every criminal meeting would start with "ok chaps - anyone here a copper?".

Also - on the txt - they wont actually have to have a phone number sent to you to get the information. Now you have publicized the number - they can just have the txt forwarded to them from Vodafone.

[Tank]

Yep - just checked and its a myth:

http://www.erowid.org/freedom/police/police_info6.shtml

[vifferman]

Is this an NZ based piece, or US? I think so many people watch lots of US TV shows that they confuse that with the reality here.

[Hispid]

Well I did just put in a very loud and irritating pipe.

May as well get some use out of it.

[idleidolidyll]

Just received notification of new email address for affirmative action:

motorcycledisruption@activist.com

send all sensitive info to this address.
send details of National ACT MP's travel and events
send media info

[Tank]

there is also the new National MP;s Blog that you can comment on:

nationalmps.co.nz

Be sure to sound rational - ranting wont help.

[idleidolidyll]

Just got the txt for action this weekend:

Useful to have video camera in case of trouble from law etc

some will arrive in places with no designated speaker/leader
advised to play it by ear

arrival time sunday 8am wellington stay 1-2 hrs then decide on next action between yourselves
ride slow, at lights you are in no rush to get across; don't speed, nothing illegal
make sure you have signs on your backs and on bikes when parked
TAKE FRIENDS

Auckland
Mission Bay Sunday 7.30-8.30 as sent
signs, slow riding in groups, be safe
if angry drivers look dangerous; let them pass
park up and take all spots

BOP Saturday about 9-10am
John Key is opening a marina in Whangamata
You probably won't get close but you CAN make a lot of noise nearby
He is having lunch in Katikati later: track him down and make a noise
Nothing illegal!
WATCH OUT FOR COPS! There will be many!

Palmy: meet city centre cafe sunday am; signs, slow riding etc

Nelson: email motorcycledisruption@activist.com
best location for protest?
time?
numbers?

[idleidolidyll]

After all events:

please email to motorcycledisruption@activist.com and provide info on how the protests went

these will be collected by organisers to help make more impact each round

If you have taken photos; send them to that address

If you want to help; (this is all anonymous) the main organiser phone card will be sent from group to group to keep media, govt and police guessing

put hands up by emailing above address

[Mr Merde]

Having perused this thread and read all the paranoia re the authoritative powers eaves dropping on this thread.

Why hasnt anyone proposed one of the basic precepts of all warefare (and this is a war no matter how you word it).

That of

MISDIRECTION
If you are worried that someone is going to watch this thread and then show up at the venue then misdirect them.

Make them gather their resources somewhere of your choosing whilst gathering yours where they are weakest.

Think of the wasted time, manhours and money spent trying to be where they believed you to be.

Think of the embarrsement when you show somewhere else.

Do this a few times and you will e leading them by the rings in their noses, if you get my aliteration.

Read SunTzu

[Ixion]

Well, I'm glad SOMEONE else gets it.

Meanwhile at a non-Westfield shopping mall ......

[Mr Merde]

Well, I'm glad SOMEONE else gets it.

Meanwhile at a non-Westfield shopping mall ......

" Master Sun

When you are going to attack nearby, make it look as if you are going to go along way; when you are going to attack far away make it look as if you going just a short distance"

"Draw them in with the prospect of gain, take them by confussion"

"Use anger to throw them into disarray"

All written 2000 years ago and just as true today in our dispute.

[Ixion]

Indeed.

And then, 'But, they publicise that they are going to attack at X. So, they are really going to attack somewhere else. But then they remind us of the words of the Master. So, perhaps they are being subtle. They think that we will think that when they say they will attack at X that means they will attack somewhere else, so we will not defend X , so I think maybe they will attack at X" . Arggh, I do not know what to believe.'

And in the meantime it ALL gets publicity!

And if NOTHING happens then THAT will be news too ! Because everyone was expecting SOMETHING to happen.

[Mr Merde]

Indeed.

And then, 'But, they publicise that they are going to attack at X. So, they are really going to attack somewhere else. But then they remind us of the words of the Master. So, perhaps they are being subtle. They think that we will think that when they say they will attack at X that means they will attack somewhere else, so we will not defend X , so I think maybe they will attack at X" . Arggh, I do not know what to believe.'

And in the meantime it ALL gets publicity!

And if NOTHING happens then THAT will be news too ! Because everyone was expecting SOMETHING to happen.

Are you stalking me mate?

We need a general not a committee. All this bickering just detracts from the purpose.

Someone step up, make a decision, accept the responsibility and take control.

Any military strategists out there? Step forward and be counted.

[idleidolidyll]

Having perused this thread and read all the paranoia re the authoritative powers eaves dropping on this thread.

Why hasnt anyone proposed one of the basic precepts of all warefare (and this is a war no matter how you word it).

That of

MISDIRECTION
If you are worried that someone is going to watch this thread and then show up at the venue then misdirect them.

Make them gather their resources somewhere of your choosing whilst gathering yours where they are weakest.

Think of the wasted time, manhours and money spent trying to be where they believed you to be.

Think of the embarrsement when you show somewhere else.

Do this a few times and you will e leading them by the rings in their noses, if you get my aliteration.

Read SunTzu

because sometimes even misdirection needs to be relatively covert and in particular; the fact that it is going to happen in any particular place and at some particular time.