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  1. #226
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    My response to Tillyboy.
    When ACC first proposed these changes to ACC and the way levies were to be levelled at those groups who were higher risk.
    It was NZ's motorcyclists who were targeted by ACC and Government.
    With massive increases on their already significantly higher ACC levies.
    The Motorcyclists got together and quickly got their messages into print and onto shirts.

    motorcyclists realised very early on that this was the opening round.
    The Govt with ACC's collusion were taking us on first, if they could crack the bikers/Motorcyclists, then the way would be clear to SHAFT the rest of the motoring public as well.Hence our Slogan.

    "WHO'S NEXT???"

    Now then Mr,tell me again who are we concerened about?????????????????.
    First yes, Ourselves? of course, we've been made the scape goat for ACC's poor investment strategy and the total missmanagement of their own failing systems.
    Secondly we saw what is coming and we didn't like it.
    We;ve stood up and told the ACC, No way.
    We've told the general motoring public at every protest ride and the Bikehoi that we know they're next, slowly but surely they are coming to realise this.
    In their thousands they are now offering their support unconditionally.I have yet to speak to a car driver of any age who can't see whats happening NOW and who are grateful and respectful of how WE have handled this protest and ourselves so far.
    ACC has and still continues to tell the general public , lies about how much it costs to rehabiliate us.

    Fact,we cost less than cyclists, pedestrians, car drivers, or truckies.
    Certainly less than mountain bikers, skiers or off road bike users.ACC's own figures prove this catagorically.
    You get to be subsidised by us, bet you didnt know that but our good mate Nicks Myth told us that himself Last Monday night.You pay no ACC levy as a majorly high risk recrational user of ACC's services, but we do and your injuries and compensation most often comes out of our (the supposed on road motorcyclists) account.
    So I ask you as a rider, did you go to Wellington to make your protest about your motorcycle levies going up?
    Did you or have you attended any actual protests in your local area to do the same.
    If not why not?
    if you did , I thank you for taking the time.
    Thats my response to your post, my very slowly typed and frequently edited response that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    My response?

    All dirt bikes should be registered (like they are in Australia).

    Then you guys could start paying your own way.
    Abso-bloody-lutely. Smug bastards on their dirtbikes. Well...this one, anyway.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by caseye View Post
    Fact,we cost less than cyclists, pedestrians, car drivers, or truckies.
    Per claim.

    Trouble is, we're making far too many claims.

    Total number of car drivers claims - 11984
    Total number of motorcyclist claims - 4509

    Yet we make up only 2% of the road using public.

    As I said at the start of the thread.........

    .......we had better start cleaning up our own back yard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    My response?

    All dirt bikes should be registered (like they are in Australia).

    Then you guys could start paying your own way.
    a breif look into the aussie situation suggests bugger all dirt bikes are registered, they dont have to be registered for use on private property, which is all I (and many others) ride.
    When you start saying others should pay there own way, It sounds like you accept that ACC is done for, no body should have to pay thier own way, its (well it was sposed to be) no fault, thats the point!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Per claim.

    Trouble is, we're making far too many claims.

    Total number of car drivers claims - 11984
    Total number of motorcyclist claims - 4509

    Yet we make up only 2% of the road using public.

    As I said at the start of the thread.........

    .......we had better start looking at cleaning up our own back yard.
    wheres the 4509 from, Ive got 3173 on the wiki?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    wheres the 4509 from, Ive got 3173 on the wiki?
    And Nick the Prick has 5044.
    My head is reeling...
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    wheres the 4509 from, Ive got 3173 on the wiki?
    From here......http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...5&postcount=18

    But at the end of the day, regardless of the actual number that we agree on, we are still way over represented in the accident statistics.

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    5044 is the total number of claims LODGED in 2008. Many of these are opened and almost immediately closed . Go to doctor , get sticking plaster, end of story. Only 1336 became entitlement claims , where there is more than that initial doctor (or ambo) visit

    3173 is the number of ACTIVE ENTITLEMENT claims in 2008 . The claims that are more than a single see the doctor, for ALL years. So some of those , the crash actually happened in previous years.

    The 4509 is obtained by adding together the 3173 and the 1336 . i don't think that's right, I think the 3173 includes the 1336.
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