What if the Government doesn't listen?

[mashman]

I kinda can't believe i'm about to write this... too many reasons to list...

what are ya gonna do if it all turns to custard? Who ya gonna call???
Queen Lizzy...

The only person in the world with the power to remove your government. We've had one go out and a board replaced, they're still there and could quite easily take the reigns if needed.

You guys write some beautiful and compelling letters, but you're missing someone off of your mailing list.

As far as the end game goes, if they sell ACC lock stock... apart from complete a civil war, how can you realistically expect that this will not go ahead, IF, the government believe that it's in the country's best interests. Seriously.

ugh!

I used to work for a media group in the UK and i still know people there. Particularly a very bright woman, and old school friend of mine, that became a journalist there just before i left. If i can find my friend (pretty sure i can) and see if she or anyone else is interested in a story about letters coming from a concerned New Zealand public, that are asking for the Queens help with the removal of their Government, because it is not acting in the peoples best interests.

You may already know someone somewhere who knows a royal journalist in London that you could run this by.

If any journalist is receptive to the idea and has any form of royal connections, send all of your letters to StoneY's place and we'll send him to meet the Queen to ask for your country back.

It's a pretty big fuckin story! A ginger man, who became a biker, who spawned a family, who decided for his 40th birthday he wanted his liberty back and so defied a government, who met the Queen and asked for his country back, and GOT IT!!! it's a movie at least! and a very peaceful revolution!

[Conquiztador]

I kinda can't believe i'm about to write this... too many reasons to list...

what are ya gonna do if it all turns to custard? Who ya gonna call???
Queen Lizzy...

The only person in the world with the power to remove your government. We've had one go out and a board replaced, they're still there and could quite easily take the reigns if needed.

You guys write some beautiful and compelling letters, but you're missing someone off of your mailing list.

As far as the end game goes, if they sell ACC lock stock... apart from complete a civil war, how can you realistically expect that this will not go ahead, IF, the government believe that it's in the country's best interests. Seriously.

ugh!

I used to work for a media group in the UK and i still know people there. Particularly a very bright woman, and old school friend of mine, that became a journalist there just before i left. If i can find my friend (pretty sure i can) and see if she or anyone else is interested in a story about letters coming from a concerned New Zealand public, that are asking for the Queens help with the removal of their Government, because it is not acting in the peoples best interests.

You may already know someone somewhere who knows a royal journalist in London that you could run this by.

If any journalist is receptive to the idea and has any form of royal connections, send all of your letters to StoneY's place and we'll send him to meet the Queen to ask for your country back.

It's a pretty big fuckin story! A ginger man, who became a biker, who spawned a family, who decided for his 40th birthday he wanted his liberty back and so defied a government, who met the Queen and asked for his country back, and GOT IT!!! it's a movie at least! and a very peaceful revolution!

Fuck man! What an idea... It is so far out that you get some serious bling for that!

[Flip]

Its easy. Vote them into the back bench at the next election.

[Papa Bear]

it couldnt work ! ................................... could it ?

[Stan]

I don't want to rain on your parade or anything but Nick Smith won't listen and he'll do just what he planned to from the start when he changed the ACC board.

He'll back off the levy increase a bit so he can say he's shown us some love but that's it.

Democracy is a wonderful thing, but it helps to have a long memory come election time.

[tommygun]

Voting them out? I will try but it's a long time coming and a sale of ACC could be done and dusted by then. End result new GOV buys it back..Kiwirail anyone.

[Headbanger]

I'd probably vote National again, Labour are just as big a pack of cunts and the rest can get fucked.

[Skyryder]

it couldnt work ! ................................... could it ?

Yes it could. National are not as entrenched as many think.

This is part of the speech that Anderton delivered to the Labour Party Conferance.

Bear in mind that this is a man who knows what he is talking about when it comes to winning elections.




Without organization and membership, you won’t raise the money that it will take to change the government.

When I produced a booklet recommending democratic institutional change in the 1960’s, head office banned and recalled it for a book burning – it’s true!

But I’ve learnt since then a thing or two about electorate organisation. Your National opponents have 9 seats with a majority of less than 2000 votes where a two-party swing of less than 3% to Labour would win all of them.

If you include Wigram on your side you only need one more seat to hold more electorate seats than National. What I am saying to you is that you can win the next election.

To win the party vote you need a two party swing of 5.84% which would give you an additional 277,573 party votes. This is a hard call but averaged out per electorate it means 3965 extra party votes in each.

Can you do it? Yes you can!

If you think you are in a tough situation try coming back from a coup against your leader in the middle of an election campaign!

We had an election system in Wigram that could tell us household by household how well we were doing.

My campaign organiser said to me before the election in 1990 as the NewLabour candidate for Sydenham that we would win by 4012 votes. No such victory had ever been achieved in the whole of New Zealand’s political history.

We won by 4009. Jeanette Lawrence was that organiser – and still is.

And in the first week after the election we were working on getting back the three votes we had failed to get. And nothing has changed in the organisation of my electorate over 25 years.

Winning elections comes from defining the positive difference we want to make for ordinary New Zealanders.

It comes from listening to New Zealanders, in regions and towns and from winning the trust and confidence of people we seek to represent. Winning comes from powerful, detailed organisation, at the level of every town and suburb, every street, every letterbox, every doorstep, every telephone, every mobile phone. It comes from Internet connections, and personal connections, and relentlessly returning to them again and again.

Skyryder

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

I kinda can't believe i'm about to write this... too many reasons to list...

what are ya gonna do if it all turns to custard? Who ya gonna call???
Queen Lizzy...

The only person in the world with the power to remove your government. We've had one go out and a board replaced, they're still there and could quite easily take the reigns if needed.

You guys write some beautiful and compelling letters, but you're missing someone off of your mailing list.

As far as the end game goes, if they sell ACC lock stock... apart from complete a civil war, how can you realistically expect that this will not go ahead, IF, the government believe that it's in the country's best interests. Seriously.

ugh!

I used to work for a media group in the UK and i still know people there. Particularly a very bright woman, and old school friend of mine, that became a journalist there just before i left. If i can find my friend (pretty sure i can) and see if she or anyone else is interested in a story about letters coming from a concerned New Zealand public, that are asking for the Queens help with the removal of their Government, because it is not acting in the peoples best interests.

You may already know someone somewhere who knows a royal journalist in London that you could run this by.

If any journalist is receptive to the idea and has any form of royal connections, send all of your letters to StoneY's place and we'll send him to meet the Queen to ask for your country back.

It's a pretty big fuckin story! A ginger man, who became a biker, who spawned a family, who decided for his 40th birthday he wanted his liberty back and so defied a government, who met the Queen and asked for his country back, and GOT IT!!! it's a movie at least! and a very peaceful revolution!

Maaaaate...............Pull what ever strings you think you can pull that will promote the cause.

I'm pretty impressed you can get royalty involved

[riffer]

You know, I did wonder on Tuesday when there were so many of us lined up in front of Parliament chanting "bullshit, bullshit..." exactly what they could have done if we decided to start walking slowly forward towards the building and up the steps...

[Ixion]

To win the party vote you need a two party swing of 5.84% which would give you an additional 277,573 party votes. This is a hard call but averaged out per electorate it means 3965 extra party votes in each

Motorcyclists hold or significantly influence 250000 votes. They just got to find another 27573.

[Pedrostt500]

You know, I did wonder on Tuesday when there were so many of us lined up in front of Parliament chanting "bullshit, bullshit..." exactly what they could have done if we decided to start walking slowly forward towards the building and up the steps...

We would have lost any chance and kicked a serious own goal.

[mashman]

Motorcyclists hold or significantly influence 250000 votes. They just got to find another 27573.

You won't need to will you? You will have already removed most of the voters for National and Labour as we'll all be voting for the BIKEOI party... who knows a few businesses may follow... i'm no statistician, but half of our vote, for arguments sake, went to either National or Labour. A 125000 vote swing off of both parties is a big chunk?

Who wants to be an MP!

[tommygun]

We would have lost any chance and kicked a serious own goal.

And someone might have got shot by the gun carrying protection squad that were up there with him. Massive own Goal.

[Wynmead]

You won't need to will you? You will have already removed most of the voters for National and Labour as we'll all be voting for the BIKEOI party... who knows a few businesses may follow... i'm no statistician, but half of our vote, for arguments sake, went to either National or Labour. A 125000 vote swing off of both parties is a big chunk?

Who wants to be an MP!

Nothing like an issue to polarise matters, but then what. I think we will need a bit more of a policy front than "don't increase our licence fees" to be a credible force chaps. Ideas?