Bikeoi! 2010

[Bald Eagle]

I was thinking of something like this ...

... a co-ordinated program with 2 rides one in each island starting on the same day and travelling through centres. like a travelling road show. each location gets an inbound ride a rally and then a ride to the next culminating in the last two regions ( sth / nth) riding in to welly like the actuall hikoi did I think. Support vehicles overnightings etc would need a lot more organising and would need to be late january so catch people on hol's before they go back to school.

[wingrider]

BIKEOI II..FREEDOM FROM LIES

And it's applicable to whatever party is in power.

[Horse]

try "utu"

While I'm no expert, "utu" is a bit more complex than just "revenge", although that is part of the concept. Try maoridictionary.co.nz's entry.

[Pixie]

I'm thinking the second one must have further reaching ramifications. Imagine 6500 of us travelling at <70kph across all lanes the entire length of the Auckland motorway system (esp. NW and 1).
Parliament were delivered the message. No point going there again...
A Vehoi?

Can't reach that speed on the Auckland goat track system

[Pixie]

Yes. It is
*A* bikeoi. The "slogan" for BIKEOI!-1 was "Damn the levies"

So maybe

BIKEOI!-1 - Damn the levies

BIKEOI!-2 - Save ACC

Not so sure about Save ACC though , it's a bit bland and all inclusive.

(Deep voiced dude that does movie trailer voiceovers):

"You were surprised by Bikoi."
"Are you ready for Bikoi The Sequel?"
"See the thousands of Bikers."
"See the quivering Politicians"
"See the urine flood out of the Beehive"
"Hear the thunderous cry of BULLSHIT"

Makes Ben Hur look like an Epic.

[Subike]

Waitangi Day 6 February Saturday 6 February

the significance of this day alone is fuel.

The remembrance of the colonial government ripping of the people of the time. Its happening again.

OK, you can argue the dispute of Waitangi Day , thats not whats at stake, so if you object on the grounds of whatever, dont post please that objection, this is just a suggestion.

The present Government is trying to smoke screen the privatization of ACC, they are in it, IMO, soley for the money. We need to object loudly about this.

Waitangi Day is a day for protests historically, a day when the people for years have spoken out against the unjustness of the system, Let us add another argument to the day.
We dont want to spend the next 100 years getting back that which is rightfully ours.
We pay for ACC,
We vote in the government to ensure that our country is run in the best way possibile for the people, not in the best way possiblie to make money for other nations..We need to protect our country from tryrany.

Bikeoi II as suggested starting on the friday from Invercargill and Auckland, with a meeting in Wellington could be a major event to organise, but it could produce support from many other than bikers. as it could be opened up for all to become involved under the leadership of us riders, who have earnt respect from a lot of the public in the past two weeks.
Keep the ball rolling, yes, in the MANS face yes, in the media, yes,
Lets remind the people they have a voice, they have a vote, and remind the govt that they are our employees, not our dictators.
My ramble for the day.
Dave

[Reckless]

Waitangi Day - good idea

[caseye]

Waitangi Day 6 February Saturday 6 February

the significance of this day alone is fuel.

The remembrance of the colonial government ripping of the people of the time. Its happening again.

OK, you can argue the dispute of Waitangi Day , thats not whats at stake, so if you object on the grounds of whatever, dont post please that objection, this is just a suggestion.

The present Government is trying to smoke screen the privatization of ACC, they are in it, IMO, soley for the money. We need to object loudly about this.

Waitangi Day is a day for protests historically, a day when the people for years have spoken out against the unjustness of the system, Let us add another argument to the day.
We dont want to spend the next 100 years getting back that which is rightfully ours.
We pay for ACC,
We vote in the government to ensure that our country is run in the best way possibile for the people, not in the best way possiblie to make money for other nations..We need to protect our country from tryrany.

Bikeoi II as suggested starting on the friday from Invercargill and Auckland, with a meeting in Wellington could be a major event to organise, but it could produce support from many other than bikers. as it could be opened up for all to become involved under the leadership of us riders, who have earnt respect from a lot of the public in the past two weeks.
Keep the ball rolling, yes, in the MANS face yes, in the media, yes,
Lets remind the people they have a voice, they have a vote, and remind the govt that they are our employees, not our dictators.
My ramble for the day.
Dave

Damn fine idea, but who said we have to travel huge distances.
Sth Island meet in Christchurch, fiil up the square with leaflet bearing bikers.
North Isalnd fill up the whole of the main shopping centre in Taupo, leaflets and bikers again.
Both Isalnds have a target destination, everyone from all over both Isalnds can take their time getting there and back and no one needs to take time off work.
Message, simple. NZ'ers against ACC being privatised and fees going up for ALL Motorists.
We get together with as many organisations as we can and invite them to attend in/on any sort of transport they can.
This could be devastatingly Huge if the Govt saw how many people came to it.
The key things are.
Announce Bikeoi ll.
Simple explanation to the general public as to why we're still fighting.
ie:National are fattening ACC for sale to private Co's this affects us all badly by way of increased fees and levies.
How many people we can get to the venues.
Just my thoughts use em, rip em apart, make them better or more interesting but we must not let the momentum lag.
Timing in The New Year and numbers are the essential keys I believe.

[Cloggy]

Waitangi weekend sounds like a good idea at this stage. It is traditionally a very busy weekend on our roads. It bikers converged to central gathering points in both islands, Christchurch and Taupo for example as suggested, the impact this would have on everyone travelling that weekend could be huge. But we won't been seen as disruptive and targetting Joe Public as we are merely travelling to our gathering points.

[MSTRS:Me]

'Hitting' Taupo would not win us any friends. If cagers are to be affected, we need to be more irritating, than totally disruptive.

[caseye]

'Hitting' Taupo would not win us any friends. If cagers are to be affected, we need to be more irritating, than totally disruptive.

No one said hitting Taupo was intended to cause the general public nuisance, but hey if we're going to do anything, it now has to be big and if it's big by definition, though it may well be peaceful and organised, it will inconveniece people.
Suggest another place we could park several thousand bikes and other vehicles in view of the general public without causing total chaos( I was thinking parking everyone on the side roads and streets in the back of the towns main centre) The reference to filling up the main street was as I said, " with bikers and leaflets"
I've simply put forward a venue and an idea.

[Reckless]

I dunno why but I thought Ixion was suggesting another trip to parliament not local gatherings in the South Is and Taupo??
Make the bastards work on the weekend LOL!!

[Ixion]

Dunno. I floated the idea, I don't have any particular preconceptions.

Thing with local gatherings, is why are they more newsworthy than (say) any of the South Island rallies.

From Joe Q's point of view, just a bunch of bikers meeting up. Ho hum

Is there a National party national conference ?

[caseye]

Well Les, if for instance we made Taupo a destination,the sheer size of the numbers converging there from all points of the Nth Island, Bikes , cars, trucks, etc would make the news.
Then if we had just one or two key(yuk that word) speakers, not a lot of time talking, bikers and others to distribute our message in written form, save ACC for lack of a better slogan , for now. In the main drag of Taupo in full view of passing joe P's and the media.
No agro just a huge gathering of like minded souls in a great town.
And don't think for a minute I don't know what your doing Mr Ixion, as things firm up I'm sure those contributing thoughts and ideas here may well be tapped on the shoulder.
I'm up for it.

[MSTRS:Me]

No one said hitting Taupo was intended to cause the general public nuisance, but hey if we're going to do anything, it now has to be big and if it's big by definition, though it may well be peaceful and organised, it will inconvenience people.
Suggest another place we could park several thousand bikes and other vehicles in view of the general public without causing total chaos( I was thinking parking everyone on the side roads and streets in the back of the towns main centre) The reference to filling up the main street was as I said, " with bikers and leaflets"
I've simply put forward a venue and an idea.

Suggestions are good. Not knocking that at all. I merely think that Taupo is probably not a good place to inconvenience the public. If the aim is to be total chaos, then Taupo would be perfect. I don't think we're at that stage yet.