Westfield Mall Protest

[dpex]

The specific Mall(s) will be notified on this site at 6am on Sunday 29th November, for those who are no a part of the telephone tree.

This particular protest has a visual theme as opposed to a clamour theme.

At each Mall it will be one bike, one car-park. The number of bikes arriving will determine the spread of the visual effect.

We are all used to arriving at a Mall car-park and seeing a sea of cars and SUVs. The car-parks are and 'look' full.

Now imagine the visual impact of every car-park in view being taken by one bike...one small bike compared to any cage. The area will look almost empty till the cagers try to find a park. This will cause the cagers to wonder.

Around them 'appears' to be space, but in fact no space exists.

There won't be a biker in sight. We'll all be in having coffee....as legitimate Mall visitors are allowed to do.

But Mr & Mrs Cager, and all their little cagers might just get a little frustrated. Many will complain to Westfield, 'Why aren't you doing something about this patent offence against our rights to find a park to then go forth and waste money in your Mall?'

Some will bitch to the Pollies. 'This has got to stop! These damned bikers caused my shopaholic wife to have a seizure when we couldn't get a park.'

Pressure. That's what we have to keep up and in fact ramp up.

And for all you limp-wrists who quail at upsetting a few thousand Mall-Gnomes, just remember how upset you're going to be when you hand over another $500 bucks for ACC next year.

And think how upset you're going to be when those of us who truly have decided we've had enough, shut down the motorways during rush-hour.

Look at it like this. We ain't going to pay any ACC levy increase. In fact we want all ACC levies on registered road-users abolished.

So there's the date. Nov 29th. The targets to be announced.

[scissorhands]

I dont like the mall idea. I hate malls with a vengence

[Paul in NZ]

Funny because a colleague at work who really couldn't give atoss either way asked me why people would do this to piss off ma and pa and risk their good will..

I mean I don't care but....

[R6_kid:Me]

IMHO this will be epic fail - both in terms of execution and effect.

[short-circuit]

IMHO this will be epic fail - both in terms of execution and effect.

I agree. It's aiming way too low - we need a massive disruption to the public and business and participation needs to occur on a scale similar if not bigger than bikeoi part I

[R6_kid:Me]

I agree. It's aiming way too low - we need a massive disruption to the public and business and participation needs to occur on a scale similar if not bigger than bikeoi part I

Apparently that worked a charm down at Whangamata - according to the locals.


If you couldn't tell, that was my attempt at sarcasm

What is the point in causing distress, disruption, and loss of business to the people that we need support from?

[short-circuit]

Apparently that worked a charm down at Whangamata - according to the locals.


If you couldn't tell, that was my attempt at sarcasm

What is the point in causing distress, disruption, and loss of business to the people that we need support from?

I know NZers have no nuts, no unions and don't know what a riot looks like - but the point of teacher and doctor strikes for example has nothing to do with punishing students or patients . It's about putting pressure on their employers (government) to make the pain go away.

The public and business will support the government to quell that level of discontent

[scissorhands]

Strength and a quick response

[Ronin]

Thanks guys, for showing how little you actually care about your fellow bikers. You have a right of course to protest however you wish, nothing wrong with that. In doing so though you are putting a far bigger target on bikers backs than ACC could ever do. You will, with a couple of acts take away any positive support that Ma and Pa public have towards us. The public that were quietly (and not so quietly) impressed at the sight of 6000 bikes, 10,000 well behaved bikers and a raft of shattered misconceptions will instead shake their heads and think we have reverted to type.

Instead of giving the process a chance, working with what is supposed to be your own community, you will do what you always do. Push your own agenda regardless of the consequences.

So go ahead. Suffer under delusion that your acts will cause the Government to cave in.

Just don't expect any back up from me or my mates.

[short-circuit]

Thanks guys, for showing how little you actually care about your fellow bikers. You have a right of course to protest however you wish, nothing wrong with that. In doing so though you are putting a far bigger target on bikers backs than ACC could ever do. You will, with a couple of acts take away any positive support that Ma and Pa public have towards us. The public that were quietly (and not so quietly) impressed at the sight of 6000 bikes, 10,000 well behaved bikers and a raft of shattered misconceptions will instead shake their heads and think we have reverted to type.

Instead of giving the process a chance, working with what is supposed to be your own community, you will do what you always do. Push your own agenda regardless of the consequences.

So go ahead. Suffer under delusion that your acts will cause the Government to cave in.

Just don't expect any back up from me or my mates.

You the type that only goes on strike in your lunch hour?

[Ronin]

You the type that only goes on strike in your lunch hour?

Wonderfully coherent response. Got anything better?

[huff3r]

You the type that only goes on strike in your lunch hour?

I think he's more the type who understands that if the public notices the changing of ACC principles they might join us, however if they notice us being dicks they wont give a shit.

[The Everlasting]

Yup,good idea imo!!

[short-circuit]

Wonderfully coherent response. Got anything better?

Pretty simple really isn't it.

How about this:

Are we going to spend the next six months "improving our public image" and convincing the public make out like they will all vote the government out on this single issue.

Or do you fancy having more nice wee parades - giving kiddies rides (ATGATTed up of course) and organising not too inconvienent park ups.

How about attending Peter's National Lover's anonymous meeting and having a nice friendly chat with minister Nick in an attempt to educate him as to the folly of his ways http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...d.php?t=112791

You wanna make an omelette you've gotta break some eggs

[The Stranger:Me]

At each Mall it will be one bike, one car-park.

Now imagine the visual impact of every car-park in view being taken by one bike...one small bike compared to any cage. The area will look almost empty till the cagers try to find a park. This will cause the cagers to wonder.

Around them 'appears' to be space, but in fact no space exists.

Ah, if you park one bike per park, wont the cagers be able to park between the bikes?
Let me know when you do west and I'll come down in a car and start the ball rolling.