you're wrong AGAIN, Nick. Critique please

**Ixion** · 24th November 2009, 14:06

Forget it

I should have posted it at 'TrainWrecks-R-us'

**Katman** · 24th November 2009, 14:11

Originally Posted by Ixion

Mr Smith also says that the fact that there are twice as many motorcycles on the road now as in 2003 is irrelevant. Other things being equal , more road users will mean more accidents. Cars have MORE accidents than motorcycles. That's because there are more of them . Mr Smith says that's irrelevant.We say that's just silly.

Devils Advocate.

Why do we make up 10% of accident statistics if we only make up 2% of the road using fleet?

**Ixion** · 24th November 2009, 14:12

Not the point.

The Nickster said the rate had gone up. It hasn't.

**DidJit** · 24th November 2009, 14:14

Originally Posted by Ixion

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**Katman** · 24th November 2009, 14:14

Originally Posted by Ixion

Not the point.

The Nickster said the rate had gone up. It hasn't.

Regardless of whether it's the point or not, I'd suggest you get your thinking cap on and formulate an answer, just on the off-chance that they suddenly throw those figures at you.

**Bald Eagle** · 24th November 2009, 14:14

Originally Posted by Katman

Devils Advocate.

Why do we make up 10% of accident statistics if we only make up 2% of the road using fleet?

'cos the other 98% keep running into us

**glegge** · 24th November 2009, 14:15

Looks great to me, My only concern is that none of the stuff we are saying in the forums here and to each other is being heard by the public etc. I truly hope that what you have written is heard and can be put under the politicians noses so they correct there facts.
Great work. i was watching the 'which main frame' thread with interest. very cool. great stuff.

**Ixion** · 24th November 2009, 14:15

Sig 5 posts and already it's a train wreck.

Forget it, I'll run with what I've got.

**Kiwi Graham:Me** · 24th November 2009, 14:17

Originally Posted by Katman

Devils Advocate.

Why do we make up 10% of accident statistics if we only make up 2% of the road using fleet?

Perhaps you too have been fooled into beliving ACC stats

**Katman** · 24th November 2009, 14:18

Originally Posted by Kiwi Graham

Perhaps you too have been fooled into beliving ACC stats

I think you'll find that they're LTNZ stats.

**mashman** · 24th November 2009, 14:21

Originally Posted by Bald Eagle

'cos the other 98% keep running into us

bless your cotton socks... cheers for the

**Kiwi Graham:Me** · 24th November 2009, 14:22

Les an excellent piece of detective work.

Is there anyway we/you can get the comparable figure for entitlement claims for 08?

**MSTRS:Me** · 24th November 2009, 14:22

Originally Posted by Ixion

Sig 5 posts and already it's a train wreck.

Forget it, I'll run with what I've got.

Do we not know that the 2008 rate was in the order of 1335? Forget the 5044...most of those are irrelevant, as you said. So compare 871/# bikes with 1335/# bikes. I believe it shows a drop in the rate/1000