Vehicles to avoid...

[Devil]

The way I see it, if your gonna filter to the front of lights, be prepared to use some power off the lights (eyes out for late runners though). If you don't have the power, maybe consider tucking into the cue of traffic instead.

Yes, this is the exact problem. If you're going to filter to the front, then fuck off as soon as the light goes green (keep your eyes peeled for red light runners). Dont stuff around, if you want to put yourself at the front of the queue then take off and get out of there.

[Pedrostt500]

I was told last night by a work mate about a bumper sticker he saw in Aussie,
Look Left, Look Right, Look Bike!.

[GOONR]

Yes, this is the exact problem. If you're going to filter to the front, then fuck off as soon as the light goes green (keep your eyes peeled for red light runners). Dont stuff around, if you want to put yourself at the front of the queue then take off and get out of there.

I agree, my bike used to run really rich when it was hot so would get sluggish on take off, when it was running like that I would filter but stop at the rear quarter of the first car in the lane.

[avgas]

FYI I am the nice chap that blocks traffic to let filterers through when I see them coming.

So if you see a blue focus wagon on the southern - with Hi-Viz sitting on the drivers seat, and it pulls over to let you through. Feel free to chuck me a wave.

[BMWST?]

First Situation:

Stanley Street lights fliter through the traffic to the front. Stop and wait for light to go green. Light goes green I start to move forward car behind me now accelerates through on my left hand side nearly clipping kerb and pushing me towards the other lane.

Speed, filtering etc not a factor here

Situation 2:

Grafton Bridge lights. Lights are red I filter through traffic to front of queue and line up in left hand lane in the painted green area at front of queue for push bikes. Then same as situation 1 car accelerates up my left hand side. Lanes go to merge due to parked vehicles so either I brake or he takes me out.

Speed filtering etc not a factor here

Situation 3

Nelson Offramp. Traffic at standstill, I filter along right hand shoulder beside barrier. Gap becomes too narrow so pull in front of a stationary car and wait for lights to change and traffic to move. Whilst sitting there car behind me is slowly nudging up beside me. As we move off he accelerates up my left hand side and starts to give me the squeeze against the barrier. Ends up I get hit in the leg as had no where to go. As lanes open up I kick his car door in retaliation he then tries for another go at me.

Speed filtering etc not a factor here

All examples its not speed, way I'm riding etc its just dickhead cagers who feel that I am going to some how delay their travel by moving in front of them. Its purely small man syndrome

its easy to see whats happening here...Who said bikes have AUTOMATIC rights to first place of the grid.These guys are in a hurry,you just werent expecting them to accelerate as fast as you.Either get it on or let them through.

[Edbear]

Yes, this is the exact problem. If you're going to filter to the front, then fuck off as soon as the light goes green (keep your eyes peeled for red light runners). Dont stuff around, if you want to put yourself at the front of the queue then take off and get out of there.

its easy to see whats happening here...Who said bikes have AUTOMATIC rights to first place of the grid.These guys are in a hurry,you just werent expecting them to accelerate as fast as you.Either get it on or let them through.

What I find funny about the Boulevard, is that when I gas it away, the drivers beside me get startled by the sudden loud Blatt of the v-twin and pause that split second. By the time they've worked it out I'm long gone...

I don't think they expect my reactions off the lights either, and also with the instant torque of my bike I don't have to pick up the revs, just let the clutch out and twist the throttle!

[Swoop]

It's nothing to do with not being seen - its to do with asshole cagers thinking they can act dangerously without consequences. In these cases, the more you are seen the more likely you get targetted. Perhaps you allude to hi-viz gear making bikers look like pansies, so cagers think they can push them over and make them cry..

This is what I was wondering. Was fub@r wearing the "I'm easy meat" hi-Viz ensemble?

[CookMySock]

This is what I was wondering. Was fub@r wearing the "I'm easy meat" hi-Viz ensemble?

Yeah well thats the reason I won't wear a "gimme a kiss" pansy jacket. I don't own a "I'll deal to you with my chain" leather jacket, but just dririder black and grey is a good middle road.

I think the power balance (perceived or otherwise) is a healthy thing between bikers and cagers.

Steve

[ManDownUnder]

I'm going over to Russell tomorrow. Any special requests?

Yup - do it the KB way!
1) Slash the tyres, burn the car, coin it - pour brake fluid over anything else you can find and sneal a dead mouse and a handful of cockroaches into the restaurant after inviting any friends you have that work for the health dept.
2) Walk up the guy, smack him in the mouth with your carbon fibre reinforced bike glove
3) Yes - confirm the car hasn't been sold since the article.
4) Confirm the driver is indeed the named person
5) Seek an innocent explanation for what happened
6) Get picked up by the cops for all the above suggested stupidity
7) Go to court and pay gazillions in reparation

... or work through those steps backwards - starting from 5 working back to 3, and if still unhappy, put in a traffic report to the cops.

[SPP]

I could be wrong but I think I also meet "SKI PRO". They tried to block me creeping up to the lights as well. Their wagon ended up half across into the next lane. Shake it off, nothing pisses an angry person off more that a smile and a wave.

I reckon the drivers have gotten better if anything. I put it down to more bikers on the road.

If this was on your Hyobag then you gotta remind yourself that they don't really fly off the line. Try to leave in a hurry. Good manners when creeping is to take it extra slow when siding up next the the first car. There's less chance of being mistaken for an arrogant prick.

[Ronin]

its easy to see whats happening here...Who said bikes have AUTOMATIC rights to first place of the grid.These guys are in a hurry,you just werent expecting them to accelerate as fast as you.Either get it on or let them through.

They can be in any amount of hurry in the world. It still doesn't give them the right to push someone into traffic. I bet they wouldn't push as hard if it was a logging track.

That said, getting out of the way has to be the best idea. Same as passing, minimum time exposed to danger.

[Ixion]

I've seen that SKIPRO plate, can't remember why I remember it though. Prolly cos he's a wanker.

If you stop at traffic lights it's often a good idea to stop either dead centre lane (move across just as you stop), or even better on an angle, so wankers can't try to force up beside you (having said which, i don't mind if they do, so long as they're sensible, I even sometimes beckon them up alongside. )

And if you're at the front especially if you're still partly between the traffic, be ready to go FAST when the lights change. If you're young you should have a half second reflex advantage over most cagers, even if old you should still be faster, and with the power weight advantage they should never be able to catch you to force you over. And weave about a bit in the lane as you power clear.

[p.dath]

Stanley Street lights fliter through the traffic to the front. Stop and wait for light to go green. Light goes green I start to move forward car behind me now accelerates through on my left hand side nearly clipping kerb and pushing me towards the other lane.

Speed, filtering etc not a factor here

Speed was an issue. You pushed to the front of the queue, and then didn't move off the line very fast holding up the person behind you.

Grafton Bridge lights. Lights are red I filter through traffic to front of queue and line up in left hand lane in the painted green area at front of queue for push bikes. Then same as situation 1 car accelerates up my left hand side. Lanes go to merge due to parked vehicles so either I brake or he takes me out.

Same issue, sounds like your not applying enough gas to get off the line.

Nelson Offramp. Traffic at standstill, I filter along right hand shoulder beside barrier. Gap becomes too narrow so pull in front of a stationary car and wait for lights to change and traffic to move. Whilst sitting there car behind me is slowly nudging up beside me. As we move off he accelerates up my left hand side and starts to give me the squeeze against the barrier. Ends up I get hit in the leg as had no where to go. As lanes open up I kick his car door in retaliation he then tries for another go at me.

It sounds like you had your bike in the wrong place at the wrong time. If the car was able to accelerate up your left hand side they you can't have been owning the lane.


Any chance you are pushing the limits a bit hard, perhaps not being very considerate of other road users, and then getting yourself into trouble - and then blaming everyone else for your own problem that you created?

[Mully]

I filter in and out of town everyday and don't usually have an issue.

No-one tends to cut me off and I try to give a wave to anyone who noticably goes out of their way to clear a path.

The only issue I have regularly is buses. I don't know why, but those bastards seem to think it's their job to stop bikes from filtering. It doesn't stop me, of course, I just make sure I am prepared for a bus to weave toward me or close the gap.

And I agree with the previous posters - if you're going to filter to the front, get out of their way sharply. Even a 250 Hyosung should be able to murder most cars off the line, surely?

[SPP]

...Even a 250 Hyosung should be able to murder most cars off the line, surely?

For sure, you've just got to try a little harder.