Highway Biker
Wan't meant to be any left hook.Originally Posted by oldrider
I enjoyed that little "left jab, right cross, left hook, combination" too!Good on you, it definitely "was" very nice!
I wanted it delivered in good old kiwi fashion.
On the end of a baseball bat, aimed fair between the eyes
Brick walls are there only to stop those who dont want it as much as you.
Last of a dying breed
Would like to see the initial information all this is relating to.
My comment here: ACC is NOT doing the job it was set out up to do. Main part what ACC is supposed to be involved in is Accident Prevention. If you consider that in the past the funds available for ACC has been enough to cover it's costs and nothing has changed re how ACC does get those funds (actually it has, ACC has increased the levies for all...) but now there is supposedly not enough $$'s to cover injuries, then one could safely draw the conclusion that the only thing ACC is doing is paying for injuries and increasing it's overheads therefore needing more money to run what it does.
If ACC was actively decreasing the chances of the poulation to become injured, then the costs per person in NZ should, by my simple logic, decrease. As the population increases and vehile registrations increase and petrol use increases there should be more money to cover it all.
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
As fully paid "professionals" they should not be bludging off of the public system. Cunts.
Damn right!bring back bull rush...
(I know of one school that still allows it... rural area though!)
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
Hardcore Biker
We should also ban forums, as we could get OSI (RSI) from typing bullshit!
Jesus was nailed up to some wood, two thousand years later and book sales are still good
Rider in training
It would be interesting to know if any of the clubs get direct funding from ACC.
Forum whore
Wait, wait, what? Did he really say that - 'Acc are raising levies on high risk others -- through the earners levy.'
You now state that you are also raising levies on “High Risk” others like Cyclists and Rugby Players through the earners levy
Cos at present , the earners levy is a flat rate. You pay the ame (about 1% odd) whether you are a granny in a rocking chair or a jihad suicide bomber trainee.
So if he says that they are going to change the earners levy to target high risk , non-road groups, then that is a very significant change .
Is it possible he's let something slip?
Does anyone have the actual quote?
Highway Biker
Original quote scanned from dom-post
Why ACC hikes are necessary
David Rett and Kirn Naylor (Letters,
Nov 24) suggest some ACC levy
payers, mainly motorcyclists, are be-
ing singled out for levy increases.
That's not true. ACC proposes
increases for almost all levy payers
this year. That will include others
with high risks, such as cyclists or
rugby players, who will pay
increased levies through the
earners' levy that all workers pay to
cover non-work injuries. Mr Flett
asks why ACC is increasing levies
when it has investment assets of $11
billion. The answer is that these
assets are needed to cover ACC's
$24b in future liabilities.
ACC uses its investment and levy
income not just to cover new claims
each year but also to cover the
ongoing costs of previous claims.
ACC's future liabilities are growing
faster every year than its investment
assets, meaning increased income
also has to come from levies.
ACC is, of course, also trying to
control the liability growth.
Kim Naylor suggests levies have
reached too high a level. ACC has
acknowledged the increases might
be unpalatable, especially in the cur-
rent economic climate. However, we
remain convinced that levy
increases of this scale are needed to
ensure the scheme's sustainability.
KEITH McLEA
General manager, ACC
I note he singes off with no mention now of ACC Insurance.
Brick walls are there only to stop those who dont want it as much as you.
Forum whore
Hm
In that case either Mr McLea is being ingenuous, suggetsing that rugby players , as high risk groups , cover that roisk through their earners levy. In which case, why should not we also?
Or, he has let an intention slip.
either way , we can use it.
Mr Smith, Oh Minister , a wee question, Mr McLea says ....
Comfortably numb
Loosely related to this NewstalkZB was fielding calls on the possibility of cyclists being charged a toll to use a proposed under-bridge cycle lane on the Auckland Harbour bridge. Don't know what the discussion was based on but there were mumblings of cycle registration being introduced to enable tolls to be levied.
May be nothing more than the radio host flying a kite, but it seemed a little too pointed to just have been plucked out of the air
Highway Biker
yep, there is no mention of expenditure on prevention. Just seems to be pointed on revenue gathering for them gazing into a crystal ball.
Brick walls are there only to stop those who dont want it as much as you.
Cyborg Biker
Since I don't play rugby... heck I don't even watch it on TV... since I don't bungy jump, ski, jump out of planes, run, box, nor do I skate board,
actually the most dangerous thing in my mind is not when I am riding but crossing the bloody street,
So do I still have to pay the higher PAYE Levy...
ACC has to recombine the accounts for a start and has come up with a better way of collecting its levy and as I have suggested... drop all levy's and then put on GST... this way you still pay ACC even if you are on ACC...the dole or any benefit
This way it works out to be a fair system for every one, this way it covers every one and hell they would be fully funded in a year or two, and it is spread out over the entire community... the older are still paying ACC, tourists are covered, you have kids you will be paying more for them as you buy more stuff for them... it will still be on fuel, oil, and even still on your rego and Wof etc as basically every thing you buy you can ACC... Sports players will be paying it on all there gear and food and every thing the club buys and or the player buys...
It means the entire community contributes to ACC not just a select few... and would impossible to work out how much any one or group has contributed to ACC (which is the way it should be)
The method of collection is already in place and the IRD goons and treasury do the rest to pay ACC... It also means that it would be very hard to privatise this way... but hell why would you want to as it the only government department making money
Forum whore
Yes , you do.
As do I . And that's the evil cross subsidisation that Mr McLea waxes wrath about.
The instructions are simple...
And just how are they to know which earners play what sport etc?That's not true. ACC proposes increases for almost all levy payers this year. That will include others with high risks, such as cyclists or rugby players, who will pay increased levies through the earners' levy that all workers pay to cover non-work injuries.
So every earner will pay more, and subsidise those who partake in 'risky' activities. And ACC is fine with that, except they went to great pains to tell the public just how much they were 'unfairly subsidising motorcyclists'.
FFS - talk about a bob each way...
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
Cyborg Biker
I know and thats why I we have to stick to our guns on this issue... there must be a fairer way of the levy collection
I cross subsidise every one else but nobody wants subsidise me...
Highway Biker
Seems like its the never ending ball of string or each hole ya dig produces more worms.
I think the worms are squirming. Every time they open their mouths or put pen to paper they are creating more crap.
And the're running out of places to hide cause they keeping shitting in their own nest.
What about dumping the whole pile of evidence we have onto John Campbell or
Mark Sainsbury's desk and telling them to put it before the public, no holds barred.
Brick walls are there only to stop those who dont want it as much as you.
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