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    Hawkes Bay protests

    Right peoples. We need a thread of our own for us locals to propose, discuss and implement ideas for the fight against ACC levy rises. These ideas are open to everyone, or can be in conjunction with what other areas are doing.

    But first I need to clear the air, so to speak…
    An unforeseen and unfortunate situation arose with the thread we had running, which meant it had to be sent to PD, and then locked. FYI that was done at my request to stop an unpleasant situation becoming downright nasty. Sadly, there are those that may no longer support YT + I in our voluntary role as HB Co-ordinators. We don’t care who fills this role, and if anyone wants to put their hand/s up for it, they will have our support. In the absence of some-else taking over, I guess she and I are still it. Whatever, we all need to remember that we are either for or against levy rises. It’s a complex issue, one that is political in nature, but regardless of anyone’s leanings, the bottom line is ‘What will this cost me?’ And I doubt that there is a one of us who wants to pay more (than we are now). Not everyone is going to agree with any particular protest proposal, that’s fine…maybe offer an alternative? Any protest is going to inadvertently cause some public some inconvenience – can’t be avoided – the intent at all times is to put the issue/s in front of the public, in an effort to educate them, because they know so little, and what they do know is most likely the spin from Nick Smith. The national co-ordinators do not sanction protests aimed at causing maximum disruption to the public, and neither do YT + I. Such tactics may be proposed by some, but at least at this stage, they will not be supported.

    Ok, we have a new thread. Let’s get this train back on it’s tracks…

    Planning is in it’s early stages for another national Bikeoi. This one is likely to take a completely different form to the first, and may not even go to Wellington. Whoever is regional co-ordinator will keep us all posted as those plans progress.

    Regional protests are up to each region. All the regions are autonomous in that regard, but are also watching each other for ideas/copying what is being done elsewhere. Keeping to the principle of getting noticed with minimum disruption, we can do anything we like.

    What are we going to do in Hawkes Bay?
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    I still recon, as a impact protest that can be done easily and quickly, have a handful of bikers parked outside the National MP's offices holding up signs with: "Honk Your Horn If You Are Aganist National Raising ACC Levis". Bikers could come and go as long as there is all the time enough to make a decent impact.

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    Am happy to support this so long as I have no plans already in progress. Bearing in mind that we are also approaching the holiday season as well.

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    Sadly there seems to be Xmas function for National in HB or any other functions of theirs to gatecrash...


    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...d.php?t=113347

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquiztador View Post
    I still recon, as a impact protest that can be done easily and quickly, have a handful of bikers parked outside the National MP's offices holding up signs with: "Honk Your Horn If You Are Aganist National Raising ACC Levis". Bikers could come and go as long as there is all the time enough to make a decent impact.
    I like that idea!! Let's make a note of it. Wonder what the cops straight across the road from Tremain would think of it, though?
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    Another thread has posed the issue of us all being lumped as 'bikies'.
    We know we are not. And we could have a patch to say so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    I like that idea!! Let's make a note of it. Wonder what the cops straight across the road from Tremain would think of it, though?
    Might increase the publicity...

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    Have a read in here.
    When Nick the Prick willingly lies in public, when the media are present, we are up against it, and we must step up the pressure.
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    Firstly Masters and YT I think you've done and are doing an awesome job and you have my full support.
    Well Done!

    As for ideas to connect with the general public and get them onside...

    How about a local Shine n Show.
    Invite the public to vote for the bike they like the best.
    Pass out handouts explaining the situation, our stance, how this could affect them and what they can do to help.
    Have a petittion drawn up and invite them to sign.
    Draw some names from the votes and pass out some spot prizes.
    Announce the results of the show.
    Invite media to cover the story. etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by P38 View Post
    Firstly Masters and YT I think you've done and are doing an awesome job and you have my full support.
    Well Done!

    As for ideas to connect with the general public and get them onside...

    How about a local Shine n Show.
    Invite the public to vote for the bike they like the best.
    Pass out handouts explaining the situation, our stance, how this could affect them and what they can do to help.
    Have a petittion drawn up and invite them to sign.
    Draw some names from the votes and pass out some spot prizes.
    Announce the results of the show.
    Invite media to cover the story. etc
    Friendly and placid. Sadly I think the time for this is over. I recon we need to up the game a fraction. More noise, more in your face.

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    The Nat MPs park their cars out at the airport most weeks a constant reminder of our plight by means of a handout on the windowscreen. Minor annoyance agreed but at least it is aimed at the target. Note there are security cameras out there....
    Please sir I would like some more

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    I'm thinking that this is going to be the format of the next major protest. Pop into Bikeoi 2010 if you want a say.
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    This is it, this letter arrived today to my Motorcycle club I have taken there name out. It came from the Labour party's Hon Rick Barker & has to be returned by 15 February 2010. Please print out & distribute it widely to family, friends, bikers, workmates etc & return to Parliament.
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    Unfortunately, I'm not sure that it fits the legal requirements for a petition.
    I'll get Ixion to have a look.
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    No, not as it stands, it needs a cover sheet with sponsor's info etc. But I suspect that Mr Parker will add that once he has the sheets back.

    I wonder why he is doing this.

    Petitions aren't generally driven by MPs, usually the other way round.

    I wonder is Labour are doing this to try to test how much support we have in the general public?
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