TV1 refused interview with Nick

[wingrider]

Just on the midday news. Lead story on bikers levies. Showed peter? from Ulysees on behive steps saying we been sold out. TV1 tried to get an interview with nick and were refused.
Have asked him to reconsider as they consider the public has a right to know whats going on.
To be updated on the 4-30 news

[Ixion]

OK.

That is *very* interesting . Is it online.

Why would Peter Mac think we were "sold out". Did he have expectations of some sort of deal /

Any why would the Nickster refuse an interview?

Is the Nickster in a shit because John Judge refused to follow the script?

Nick and Peter Mac had a deal? But John Judge didn't play ball?

The plot thickens

[Dadpole]

I note that TVNZ still quoted levy going up from $430. Do these people never check anything, or just use copy & paste from ACC and other media sources?

[MSTRS:Me]

I note that TVNZ still quoted levy going up from $430. Do these people never check anything, or just use copy & paste from ACC and other media sources?

It's the entire education system we are lumbered with. Kids are not taught to think for themselves. Goes right through to tertiary.
"Thinking? That's not in the curriculum."

[Mrs Busa Pete]

OK.

That is *very* interesting . Is it online.

Why would Peter Mac think we were "sold out". Did he have expectations of some sort of deal /

Any why would the Nickster refuse an interview?

Is the Nickster in a shit because John Judge refused to follow the script?

Nick and Peter Mac had a deal? But John Judge didn't play ball?

The plot thickens

I had a thought last night and man did i get a head ache any way.

Wonder if we could get one of the tv chanles to have a live debate with nick /judge and the bikers this could be our chance

[Ixion]

The $430 is "Sort of" correct. It's the base figure before adjustment for fuel levy and "adjustments". Essentially , it's what ACC reckon we *should* be paying this year. Note that ACC years change mid calender year. This is the 2009/10 year.

[Nasty]

The $430 is "Sort of" correct. It's the base figure before adjustment for fuel levy and "adjustments". Essentially , it's what ACC reckon we *should* be paying this year. Note that ACC years change mid calender year. This is the 2009/10 year.

But what they want to charge us does not include fuel levy and "adjustments" ... it appears that they are excluding that from one part and including it in another.

We still have to pay for fuel levies and adjustments whatever the hell they are. ON top of the $750 just to register.

[Ixion]

Yeah, I know. Just explaining where they're getting that $430 number from.

[MSTRS:Me]

The $430 is "Sort of" correct. It's the base figure before adjustment for fuel levy and "adjustments". Essentially , it's what ACC reckon we *should* be paying this year. Note that ACC years change mid calender year. This is the 2009/10 year.

So, what I understand that to mean is that rego levy is $252, and the difference ($178) is the amount we pay through fuel. Based on averages, of course.

[MSTRS:Me]

But the announcement today of a figure of $739 includes fuel levy? How do we seperate the two components to see how much they are still trying to shaft us? Do we take off $178, and end up with $561? As compared to $745...

[mashman]

Yeah, I know. Just explaining where they're getting that $430 number from.

Covered in another thread. $430 is the rego for year 2010/2011 according to http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...=113859&page=2

Funny how it went up by $77

[wingrider]

OK.

That is *very* interesting . Is it online.

Why would Peter Mac think we were "sold out". Did he have expectations of some sort of deal /

Any why would the Nickster refuse an interview?

Is the Nickster in a shit because John Judge refused to follow the script?

Nick and Peter Mac had a deal? But John Judge didn't play ball?

The plot thickens

Peter made the point of 5000 bikers protesting at the beehive, making submissions etc and we have not been listned to.
TV1 made the point as to the very little reduction in levies.

They ( in their words) got a very testy reception when they asked his office for the interview. Got told he was still looking at the recomendations and wasnt prepared to comment at this stage.

Overall they painted a pretty nasty picture of Nick ( first time) and said there are some really angry people out there.

[Nasty]

But the announcement today of a figure of $731 includes fuel levy? How do we seperate the two components to see how much they are still trying to shaft us? Do we take off $178, and end up with $553? As compared to $745...

How confusing ... this is an earlier post I did when the reg went up this year.

My god .. went warrented and registered my bike this morning ... warrent fine ... $32 - checked by a rider ... at VTNZ in porirua

Registration ... OMG

$321.24

Made up from $24.50 Licence fee $1.64 other levies, $6.72 administration ACC $252.69 - gst $35.69

Farking hell ... I know ACC did ok looking out for me when Grub died in an accident ... but shite that is almost the cost of last years reg on its own!

[Mystic13]

It's the entire education system we are lumbered with. Kids are not taught to think for themselves. Goes right through to tertiary.
"Thinking? That's not in the curriculum."

Nope. Our kids have grown up in the "cut and paste" generation and where spelling isn't important because they all have "spellchecker".

A young teacher at school responded to being asked how to spell a word by saying "I don't know, I'm from the spellcheck generation."

And before you complain too loudly about education you should also remember that a certain fastfood company entered the market and trained NZer's to drink out of straws. Something I still refuse to do.

As for ACC it's nice to know they're doing the full consult reading everything we send in and listening to what we say and then realising they haven't convinced us yet and therefore they need to explain again why their proposal is fair. You'd think at some point they engage the brain and listen.

My fear is they're run by Government employees who would go to their death defending an error rather than admit they made errors. They're as bad as 5 year olds.

Keith McFlea should be removed from ACC.

[MSTRS:Me]

Covered in another thread. $430 is the rego for year 2010/2011 according the ACC site! Funny how it went up by $77

Hmmm...

The average rate for cars (including the levy on petrol) will surge from $287 to $352.19 a year.

Lobbying by motorcyclists, including a 5000-strong rally at Parliament last month, failed to change the ACC's plan to cut the cross-subsidies for motorcyclists, chairman John Judge said.

"We don't see any policy reason why motor vehicles as a whole should be subsidising motorcyclists."

However, a change in assumptions had trimmed the recommended increase and that could drop further if ACC Minister Nick Smith decides, as signalled, to moderate the rise.

Figures released yesterday show the ACC's final recommendation would see the levy on moped owners rise from $100 a year now to $247.22.

The cost for motorbikes bigger than 600cc would rise from $430.54 to $739.32, but that is down on the $781.12 originally suggested by the ACC. It would fall to $659.26 once the law change was in place.

From here
Someone, somewhere has their wires crossed. It is this type of misinformation that makes it really hard to know the bottom line. The public just turn off when we try to draw attention to it.