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Thread: John Judge says it's unfair that other motorists subsidise Nick Smith's ACC levies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Nope , that's what it shows. I did speculate that a lot of Harleys are ridden by people who are retired from the work force, therefore no ERC.

    Another possibility is that Harleys, again, are ridden by older riders, who don't bounce so well - hence medical costs are higher. (its a percentage so higfher costs in one area mean a lower percentage in others)
    So yet again Nick Smith is drawing a very long bow. God he would have been fearful at Agincourt.
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    +Broke it down more finely

    1341+ cc , ERC is 44%
    1000 to 1340 is 42%

    But 750 to 1000 is only 27%

    Bear in mind this is more complex than it may seem.

    It also relates to the severity of the crash. Since ACC don't pay the first two weeks off work, a more "minor" crash may cost very little in ERC. Gravel rash for istance won't keep you off work for long - hurts like hell but not much hospital time. So, high medical costs, lower ERC

    Maybe the 600 riders are hard riders, and when they crash they seriously munt themselves.

    The 750 to 900, that tends to be fairly experienced riders, who are too sedate to want a litre bike. Maybe when they crash it's less spectacular, so more medical, less erc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post


    * Other , because some claims have meaningless cc ratings (I don't know of a 5000 cc bike!) : and mopeds complicate matters, ACC are now lumping .
    Boss Hog V8 bikes,
    and it could be inclusive of V8 trikes
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    Possible. I'm not sure what happens with trikes. interesting point.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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