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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    You need to tie into someone who can provide breakdown service. (90% of AA membership are members only for the breakdown service.)

    Provide that and the rest follows easily

    Talk to Mark at Swann, they have a break down service subsidiary
    Who is Mark Swann??


    first have to come up with the policies and mandate etc...? similar to BRONZ but bit more omph and freedom of choice I guess...

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    Preoccupation with AA won't help - it's not influential in the scheme and Judge, Nickster and co are only puppets.

    The people or organisational heirarchy is

    CEO's told what to do by National Road Safety Management Group. All NGOs like AA got kicked off influencing this by disbanding of the ICG or industry consultative group awhile ago on GRSPs advise as GRSP said only lead Govt agencies have enough investment to be stakeholders - this was due to AA advocating for real road safety not following the GRSP and world bank line 100%.

    Controlling the autocratic elitist non consultative secretive NRSMG are

    - Supt Cameron a floater Oz Policeman responsible for NZ / Aus safety research programs associated with Monash University MUARC research centre and Austroads (both set up by WHO and the World Bank) who regularly visits to advise next steps in collaboration with...
    - Tony Bliss (ex LTSA setter upper and boss and Treasury economist) now turned lead world bank transport lender is ultimate authority/manipulator
    Jeanne Breen is an important sometime advisor to both NZ NRSMG/MoT and NZ Road-pol (UN world bank global police HQ just set up in Welly)

    ETSC a reputed European NGO actully has Jeanne Breen as a Director, and it advises many countries supposedly independently or via the GRSP (a road safety research and mentoring group funded by 3 or 4 auto manufacturers and Swedish International Devt Agency), which partners with Tony Bliss of the World Bank and the Directorate General of the European Commission to run 13 case studies, including NZ.

    The enforcers that ensure the aboves' will is done, and can influence it too are;

    - Paul Graham NZTA/MoT scientist who stunt doubles as advert manager
    - Jagadish Guria; I believe ex MoT mathematician or economist and ex World Bank but now concealed at NZIER, to protect the MoT from scrutiny of our relentless OIA's
    (the above 2 personas write GRSP/world bank road safety standards manuals with Mr Bliss in their spare time).
    - Whatever Police Commissioner is the flavour of the day

    The aim of GRSP is to apply a business partnership approach to existing government and private corporations. The GRSP programme draws together institutions such as the World Health Organisation and the United Nations, government and private corporations that are large commercial enterprises with direct or indirect interests in road safety such as 3M (road signs), Daimler Chryssler, United Distillers and BP. Corporate members of GRSP each pay an annual cash subscription of at least CHF 75,000.

    They may also share the cost of advisers, for example by secondment.

    NZ is a small mc market, where are mcs made and are manufacturers members of GRSP? I'd doubt it. Which country is the World Bank in, and needs it's auto industry to conquer Asia pacific of which we're part?

    The buck may just stop in Washington methinks.

    NZ transport strategy to 2040 supports buellbabes and my prior post - most of the rest is excerpts. http://www.transport.govt.nz/ourwork...s/NZTS2008.pdf

    Reduce road deaths to no more than 200 per annum by 2040.
    Reduce serious injuries on roads to no more than 1,500 per annum by 2040.
    Increase use of public transport to seven percent of all trips by 2040 (ie from 111 million boardings in 2006/7 to more than 525 million boardings in 2040).
    Increase walking, cycling and other active modes to 30 percent of total trips in urban areas by 2040.

    At current rates, the total number of kilometres travelled by vehicles on roads in New Zealand is expected to increase by approximately 42 percent by 2040. Travel demand management
    Travel demand management (TDM) has four objectives:
    reducing the need to travel (while still • allowing people to access the services and facilities they need)
    • reducing the distances people need to travel to access the same services and facilities
    • achieving more efficient travel that uses less fuel, less road space and produces fewer emissions
    (eg rideshare27, public transport, cycling and walking)
    Push and pull measures can be used such as road user charges

    Supporting traditional public transport is likely to be more cost-effective
    in larger urban areas and for travel between cities. Elsewhere, less traditional forms of shared transport (such as voluntary and community transport, ridesharing and car clubs33) will need to be explored to address accessibility and social exclusion issues in a cost-effective way.

    Car clubs where a group of people jointly own a car can give people access to a car on a pay-as-you-go basis. Car clubs can save users from the associated costs of sole ownership a vehicle or a second vehicle.

    Confirmed in transport to 2040 - cars as next targets

    "A ’road user hierarchy’ can be applied to reflect the importance attached 34. to each mode of travel, often starting with people with mobility and sensory impairments at the top, followed by pedestrians, cyclists, public transport users, powered two wheeled vehicles, commercial businesses and, lastly, car trips.
    Key components that will contribute to managing travel demand include integrated planning and considering options for charging. In addition,
    the government’s Digital Strategy and its support for broadband will reduce pressure on transport services by promoting teleconferencing, and telecommuting.
    Bringing the services to the users, rather than vice versa, is another option – for example mobile surgical units and libraries in rural areas. This can reduce the need for people to travel or own a private car
    Strategic routesfor commerce and freight will be improved

    Promote travel demand management (TDM ) best-practice by building on Transit New Zealand’s TDM manual and guidance material produced by Land Transport New Zealand and local authorities

    Become one of the first countries in the world to widely use electric vehicles
    • This target was set in the NZES. Its rationale is based on the fact that the NZES also adopts a target that by 2025, 90 percent of electricity will come from renewable resources. This makes electric vehicles a logical choice in a low carbon transport future, provided the technology becomes available at an affordable price and the relevant distribution and charging infrastructure is available.

    To confirm my theory of mc extinction policy regardless of the whodunnit you would need to maybe explore above "suspect" documents and also see the recommendations NRSC makes to the Transport Minister regarding the package for the 2020 road safety strategy, including the underlying assumptions about life savings of each recommended intervention package (of the perhaps 3 options) by road user type. This info will be under legal privilege until the 2020 strategy is announced later this month.

    The future appears to be car travel only for the elite, car pools and public transport or walk it for the rest. We're going back in time - or maybe becoming a remote Polynesian Island again. Over motorised and too ready to skip here and there is how they see us. Gas companies can still make their money by just upping prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wild_weston View Post
    So it has been proven in stuff today that I was right that the AA were supporters of increasing motorbike levies. Not fair to impose levies by driver but ok to single out bikes - what a crock!

    I say show your displeasure - take your business elsewhere if you are insured with them or use their breakdown service and let them know it is because of their stance on motorbikes.

    Mike Noon is their top man on motoring issues (from the attached stuff article).

    Linky:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...clause-slammed
    Why are the AA defending the rights of criminals? Are they motorists or even AA members? The meddling cock smokers will be getting an earful from me in future.
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    jonkey & ass said,

    "ACC is here to stay but the employer fund is to be privatised"


    to do this an insurance company will only pay out for accidents that happen at work
    not your rugby accidentat the weekend

    this means cheeper rates for the biusenesses ,(say 1/3 $)

    so where do acc get the money to pay for the rugby accident,
    easy , from us the people of NZ by charging rugby clubs an ACC levy per person

    the same with your ski lift passes and push bike rego's
    the list is endless and all valid "risk" groups
    what a huge cash cow

    so do you think our wages will go up???

    nither do I

    there is one simple anwser -- stop future funding of ACC and dont privatise any of it

    go back 20 years and the acc worked properly, untill natonal saw the potential cash involved

    the future funding is a political "choise" from the natonal government in 1999
    it is a leading cause of the $4b loss
    but do you think government will give the $11b assets back to acc

    not likely,

    acc will need all the money it can get if it looses the employer fund,but thats OK ,

    joe public will pay !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candor
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    Confirmed in transport to 2040 - cars as next targets

    "A ’road user hierarchy’ can be applied to reflect the importance attached 34. to each mode of travel, often starting with people with mobility and sensory impairments at the top, followed by pedestrians, cyclists, public transport users, powered two wheeled vehicles, commercial businesses and, lastly, car trips.
    That doesn't support your argument. It shows powered two wheelers as a preferred transport option after cyclists and public transport (never going to get ahead of those two in bureaucrat desireability stakes)
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    Who is Mark Swann??
    That was Mark at Swann (as in Swann Insurance)

    hth
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Everlasting View Post
    Yeah I don't buy it either,there is no way the Big Four and other manufacturers would let that happen without a huge fight.


    Just a thought,the huge levy increases would surely have some impact on people buying new motorbikes? If it does,then the manufacturers will lose money at a steady rate.
    The Big Four are probably less worried than yopu may think, Bothe Honda and Suzuki also build cars, Kawasaki has the heavy industry side of the company, Yamaha still make musical instruments, generators and are probably tied into other industry, it would probably be more American and smaller European manufacturers that need to worry about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedrostt500 View Post
    Yamaha ... are probably tied into other industry,.
    They do complicated, limited run castings for Toyota, among others. (Cylinder heads for example)

    They make helicopters too. http://www.gizmag.com/go/2440/
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
    those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    Like you knew that all along... we won't be re-newing our AA membership...
    Just remember that AA is an insurance company first, an insurance company second, and an insurance company third - the whole "membership / association" thing is just a marketing strategy for the insurance business.

    Have a look at their support for speed cameras if you want to see how they advocate for "members" interests.

    So, if you're insured, canceling policies may help.Canceling membership may get the point across to some staff, but not to the organisation itself.

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