Letter from Nix Myth

**Bend-it** · 4th December 2009, 15:32

You would have got it too if you put in a submission... (attached below)

I'm even more pissed off now than if they hadn't replied... and what a bloody pathetic email address to send it from... Temp1.Smith@parliament.govt.nz

My reply, with cc to John Key, or whichever bod reads it
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Lies lies lies lies.

WEEKS after those numbers have been debunked, you're still flinging them around.

Honorable Nick Smith, my arse.

You have no integrity as a public servant, basing your arguments on bare-faced lies and intentional mis-information.

Your mother would be ashamed of you. I voted blue at the last election, and I'm ashamed to have done so. You can be sure that you have pushed me and thousands of others into the other camp.

Yours Sincerely,
Kevin

**Hanne** · 4th December 2009, 15:35

Interesting, I did not get one...
Was it emailed to you or snail mail?

**YellowDog** · 4th December 2009, 15:43

Waffle & Bollox

**sammcj** · 4th December 2009, 16:03

Originally Posted by YellowDog

Waffle & Bollox

Indeed.

Just got mine, typical - put it in a PDF a horrid, proprietary file format, makes it harder to copy and paste too.

**flyingcrocodile46** · 4th December 2009, 16:10

Originally Posted by Bend-it

WEEKS after those numbers have been debunked, you're still flinging them around.

Honorable Nick Smith, my arse.

You are soooo right. a good chunk of it was cut and pasted from his press statement 17/11/09.

The fuckers are so arrogant that they are recycling previously debunked bullshit.

btw, I haven't received mine yet either

**Ixion** · 4th December 2009, 16:13

Interestingly, it's dated 20th November. Wonder where it's been since then

**ManDownUnder** · 4th December 2009, 16:19

Originally Posted by Ixion

Interestingly, it's dated 20th November. Wonder where it's been since then

Does it smell like poo? I have an idea where someone may have stuck it...

**Voltaire** · 4th December 2009, 16:31

ACC seems to have determined that there is a difference between small bikes ( light weight) and big bikes ( very heavy indeed).

In the world of cars is there a similar relationship?

Do smaller ( light) cars have less accidents than more powerful ( heavy) cars?

Obvioulsy not as ACC would levy them differently......
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Taken from the ACC guide to working things out:

light/small = not much power
Heavy/big = lots of power
Car= good
Motorcyle= bad
Taxpayer= free
Motorcyclist= user pay
Happy to answer your question= don't expect an answer
Submission= junk mail
there are lots of others....

**GOONR** · 4th December 2009, 16:53

Just got my letter,

How does he think he can carry on spouting the same old bullshit figures, does he really think that no one else has been looking at the stats, what a fucking clown.

**MSTRS:Me** · 4th December 2009, 17:07

Oooo...just got mine too.
My reply?

The 'Hon Nick Smith? I don't think so. I'm glad no paper was used in sending his response. I don't like to think of the waste that would be.
To his reply, I merely respond with BULLSHIT!! Perhaps he has an understanding of what that means. I know he's heard it before.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 4th December 2009, 17:42

Originally Posted by Nicks Myth

ACC lost 2.4 billion in 2007/2008 and another 4.8 billion

How can one loose 4.8 billion and still make a profit of 1 billion... I know my math is bad but... ummm

Originally Posted by Nicks Myth

Motorcycle accidents claims have have risen from 871 in 1998 to 5044 in 2008

Where the fuck did 5044 come from ACC say its one 3173????

Originally Posted by Nicks Myth

Even with the levy increase every car owner is subsiding $77

age old arguement, as 90% are subsidsiding themselfs 2 or 3 times... and this is new even after the increase of leavy (not counting mopeds) So we will take and average of the 500 dollars for motorcycles and 2009 fleet numbers since this is for next year

$77 x 2,681,461.00 cars in 2009 = $206,472,497

101,457 x $500 = $50,728,500 (of course we know they won't get this)

$50,728,500 + $206,472,497 = $257,200,997

But but but...

**mikeey01** · 4th December 2009, 19:22

O I wrote to the foolish one steering this too.
Nic the dick smith is who I addressed and sent my e-mail to.
It was very simple, two facts that I was asking for his comment on.

Is he stuipd? Can he not read?

My facts were simple enough,
Motorcyclist -accidents, levies collected $x figure (now X is what ever acc has put on their web site this week)
Cyclists -accidents, levies collected $x figure (X is same as above, what ever ACC has on their web site this week)

Then I asked for his comments on those figures, nice and short like, right.

He didn't answer, nor did he even comment, bastard I tell ya!

Instead I got a reply from this bloke called temp1.smith. Dated 20 November 2009. It's two pages of bollocks that I don't understand.

I'm smelling something here and it ain't roses fellas!

**Okey Dokey** · 4th December 2009, 20:54

I wrote him an old fasioned snail mail letter- no reply thus far. If I get a letter back, I will advise if it is any different to your email reply.

**MSTRS:Me** · 5th December 2009, 08:07

Can I suggest that all who get one of those BULLSHIT pdf's...if you respond (as many of us have already) it would be a good idea to send your response to n.smith@ministers.govt.nz instead of the TEMP1 addy. I'd say that all replies to the temp1 will be automatically binned.

**ManDownUnder** · 5th December 2009, 10:30

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Can I suggest that all who get one of those BULLSHIT pdf's...if you respond (as many of us have already) it would be a good idea to send your response to n.smith@ministers.govt.nz instead of the TEMP1 addy. I'd say that all replies to the temp1 will be automatically binned.

And copy Phil Goff so he has a count of the responses that get ignored... perhaps bcc him...