New ACC motorcycle levies confirmed

**Laxi** · 10th December 2009, 17:08

the who's next message is getting through loud and clear now, the news is focusing on the increases to EVERY wage earner and car owner, we've already recieved support from the unions, there's no way its over, next year we need to go back to parliament and this time not just motorcyclists! 20,000 should be an easy target for people at parliament in feb

**scissorhands** · 10th December 2009, 17:12

Bring it on! I dont like this lot we have in

**shrub** · 10th December 2009, 17:16

like it or not, we're paying more when we don't need to (as anyone who has listened to Charley Lamb would know).

I think the way forward is to say "OK, we're paying more. Now Mr ACC, start making motorcycling safer for us. Spend that money we're giving you on road design and repair, laws that fit us, subsidised rider training, education campaigns for car drivers etc, and you'll soon find your bills will start dropping".

Alternatively we can all get pissed off and just pay more.

**NONONO** · 10th December 2009, 17:30

"I have in my hand a piece of paper"
Neville Chamberlain 1938.
"Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit"
Bikeoi 2009.

**Ixion** · 10th December 2009, 17:36

Originally Posted by shrub

like it or not, we're paying more when we don't need to (as anyone who has listened to Charley Lamb would know).

I think the way forward is to say "OK, we're paying more. Now Mr ACC, start making motorcycling safer for us. Spend that money we're giving you on road design and repair, laws that fit us, subsidised rider training, education campaigns for car drivers etc, and you'll soon find your bills will start dropping".

Alternatively we can all get pissed off and just pay more.

Well, in theory, $30 of that increase is ringfenced for just that purpose. In practice, it may be another matter, that could pay for a lot of junkets.

**CrAzYMoFo** · 10th December 2009, 17:37

dont forget we already pay more than cars

also why dont more powerful cars pay more since they are going 2 split bikes

or why dont young people pay more cause there a higher risk too (dont flame me im one of those lol)

this is not an insurance company its acc which means no fault system

means it should be a flat rate for all cars,bikes,trucks

we already pay more than cars as it is

people are playing into the goverments hands by backing down going nah this is ok after they drop the increase a bit

they planned to do this make you say oh thats not so bad

its only no so bad in comparison to the other increase

its still dammed bad if you look at the % of increase in one year and that we arnt useing acc the way its ment to be used

if there not going to play buy the rules (acc being a no fault system) then why do we give up our right to sue i dont like the idea of lawers making all that money but why give up all your rights and ge absolutely nothing in return?

its people being stupid enought to give up there rites one at a time

later on you will find you are playing and have no cards left in your deck
and no leg to stand on

i wont be paying my acc anymore untill they give us what acc is ment to be all about

**ukusa** · 10th December 2009, 17:51

this ain't over, time to inconvenience everyone now surely. Stuff the "lets do it by the law" & "let's not piss other motorists off coz we want them on our side". We need frequent nationwide co-ordinated protest rides. Gridlock in the cities. This would mean extra policing costs which I'm sure the govt can ill afford. I would be happy to do this every Saturday for as long as it takes.
This increase is criminal. Nobody puts prices up by that amount in normal business, if they did, they would have no business. Unfortunately with ACC we have no choice, we can't go elsewhere. If this doesn't change, for the first time in my life I will be registering for 6 months only then it will be on hold for winter. If everyone could do this, their increase would have a negative result, and not result in any extra in the coffers.

**wezo** · 10th December 2009, 17:57

Two questions. When does this apply? And secondly, can i get an 12 month extension to my current rego at the current cheaper rate? I still have 4 months to go.

**riffer** · 10th December 2009, 17:59

Originally Posted by Ixion

Well, in theory, $30 of that increase is ringfenced for just that purpose. In practice, it may be another matter, that could pay for a lot of junkets.

Accept your previous explanation of your quote to the media Les. I'm not happy but I can probably afford it.

I don't agree with the cc thing but ACC have started it, and there's now the precedent for them to do it with cars.

Also, now is where Bronz can step in and get some flesh on the bones of the training idea. Let's NOT get Ulysses and AA anywhere near it.

**Naki Rat** · 10th December 2009, 18:04

Originally Posted by Pussy

At least you came across on TV1 News about still not being happy about the unfairness, Les.
Peter Mac was almost kissing Smith's arse

My thoughts too. Limp and naive response from Peter Mac but the public is now finally waking up to our "Who's Next" warning. 2010 going to be an interesting year

**Naki Rat** · 10th December 2009, 18:05

Originally Posted by wezo

Two questions. When does this apply? And secondly, can i get an 12 month extension to my current rego at the current cheaper rate? I still have 4 months to go.

15 months seems to be the maximum length of rego you can buy, but grab the applicable forms before they 'run out' of them

**Conquiztador** · 10th December 2009, 18:10

My comments, for what they are worth:

- Only a "no increases" resul is acceptable.

- $30 is now charged us so they can work on rider education to decrease accidents by bikes. Does that mean that this is something they have not afforded to do before? Here I was under the impression that it was part of what ACC always was for, accident prevention. ??

- The cc rating based levies have to go!

- I would love to se ACC's audited acounts. Wonder how much of their "income" is used on admin and costs that has nothing to do with accident prevention or accident rehabilitation?

We have missed the opportunity to protest ride today! That would have been the ultimate! To say straight away: "Fuck you!"

The time for peacful protests is gone. Waste of time now. I will participate in disruptive ones only!

And to the "leaders" of all this: Thank you for what you have achieved sofar. But I now feel betrayed by your rolling over for tummy tickles.