Excuse me!

[Mom]

So, we now have the verdict on these levy increases. I have read that BRONZ are ok with this. Well, to be fair to BRONZ, not happy as much as lets pour oil on the water. Settle things down and wait to see what safety initiatives are forthcoming. We can always protest the levies later.

I think though for a lot of us this has morphed beyond levy increases to a deeper understanding of what is at stake here. As a motorcycling community we have been onto it enough to know from the get go this was not all about us.

"Who's Next" was our slogan from the start. I am not sure about you guys but...

I am not about to go away.

For me this is, and always has been about the long haul. Apparently we now have really got the message home, we are not facing anywhere near as big a hike as was muted. They listened/we won.

Not as far as I am concerned.

Sure they heard us loud and clear. We took it to the steps of parliament and also drove the message home all over the show. But we still face being singled out, we still face the errosion of a world class accident prevention, compensation and rehablitation scheme, although the Minister responsible for it calls it an insurance scheme. My argument is simple. ACC is not an insurance scheme. It was founded on the Woodhouse principles and frankly the powers that be have NO RIGHT to change it.


I have not read anything on here since this afternoon, so apologies if I am reinventing the wheel a bit. I am still very angry, I doubt I am alone.

[Mully]

Agreed Mom.

We need to keep the pressure on the bastards.

[Ixion]

So, we now have the verdict on these levy increases. I have read that BRONZ are ok with this. Well, to be fair to BRONZ, not happy as much as lets pour oil on the water. Settle things down and wait to see what safety initiatives are forthcoming. We can always protest the levies later.

I think though for a lot of us this have morphed beyond levy increases to a deeper understanding of what is at stake here. As a motorcycling community we have been onto it enough to know from the get go this was not all about us.

"Who's Next" was our slogan from the start. I am not sure about you guys but...

I am not about to go away.

For me this is, and always has been about the long haul. Apparently we now have really got the message home, we are not facing anywhere near as big a hike as was muted. They listened/we won.

Not as far as I am concerned.

Sure they heard us loud and clear. We took it to the steps of parliament and also drove the message home all over the show. But we still face being singled out, we still face the errosion of a world class accident prevention, compensation and rehablitation scheme, although the Minister responsible for it calls it an insurance scheme. My argument is simple. ACC is not an insurance scheme. It was founded on the Woodhouse principles and frankly the powers that be have NO RIGHT to change it.


I have not read anything on here since this afternoon, so apologies if I am reinventing the wheel a bit. I am still very angry, I doubt I am alone.

Which fairly closely sums up BRONZs position. The campaign now moves on from levies to principles. I have always said, it ends in Nov 2011. Two years away.

[White trash]

I loved Mr S Myths comment in his press conference that "car owners would have to accept a $30 per year increase to offset the amount motorcyclists weren't contributing". Cheeky little fucker.

[hayd3n]

the out come was better then proposed, but still a unfair hike against us,
next they'll be saying cheese cutters save lives

[Qkkid]

Which fairly closely sums up BRONZs position. The campaign now moves on from levies to principles. I have always said, it ends in Nov 2011. Two years away.

I agree But..............
No parking in the Caketin next time we need to jamm those streets of Wellywood so all can feel our pain.

[FJRider]

Perhaps if the minister wants bikes off the road, we have a protest in cars ... not bikes. If the numbers show up in cars, that did on bikes ... imagine the traffic chaos in city centres then ...

[Mully]

I loved Mr S Myths comment in his press conference that "car owners would have to accept a $30 per year increase to offset the amount motorcyclists weren't contributing". Cheeky little fucker.

Yeah, someone needs to slap that smarmy little shit in the face. Wipe the shit-eating grin of his face.

Perhaps if the minister wants bikes off the road, we have a protest in cars ... not bikes. If the numbers show up in cars, that did on bikes ... imagine the traffic chaos in city centres then ...

I pondered that this morning actually. Take all riders and put them in cars for the day (with notices in the windows obviously).

[Toaster]

I loved Mr S Myths comment in his press conference that "car owners would have to accept a $30 per year increase to offset the amount motorcyclists weren't contributing". Cheeky little fucker.

And so they should contribute when they cause a fair percentage of biker injuries.

Why should bikers pay to cover the full cost of biker injuries when there are many other road users that actually cause the crash that brought on the injuries in the first place.

[duckonin]

Perhaps if the minister wants bikes off the road, we have a protest in cars ... not bikes. If the numbers show up in cars, that did on bikes ... imagine the traffic chaos in city centres then ...

Was on the Auks motorway last Friday at 3pm, traffic was chaos, two and a half hours from pukekohe to Point Chev turn off, and this idiot Govt want bikes off the road FFS...Most every vehicle had one person in it Geezzzz!!!

[twotyred]

Perhaps if the minister wants bikes off the road, we have a protest in cars ... not bikes. If the numbers show up in cars, that did on bikes ... imagine the traffic chaos in city centres then ...

Inspired! This would work especially well in wellington

[Skyryder]

I loved Mr S Myths comment in his press conference that "car owners would have to accept a $30 per year increase to offset the amount motorcyclists weren't contributing". Cheeky little fucker.

Can't say I'm surprised at this. Sadly there will be many cars owners who will accept this as gospel and blame us for their increase.

Which is exactly what Smith has intended. Divide and conquer, then watch the levies rise again.


Skyryder

[P38]

Yep

Now's the time to Go Hard! and not GO Home

[Mom]

Was on the Auks motorway last Friday at 3pm, traffic was chaos, two and a half hours from pukekohe to Point Chev turn off, and this idiot Govt want bikes off the road FFS...Most every vehicle had one person in it Geezzzz!!!

This idiot government are not thinking along those lines at all, contrary to the Climate bill they have just approved and are crowing about. They are being spoon fed dodgy numbers by the people we pay to provide them. They swallow these numbers and act accordingly. As individual bikers we dont have a strong voice. Forgive me here, BRONZ has been a toothless organisation due to lack of support. I fear they may continue to be castrated. I hear the voice of reason from them loud and clear, but this is no time to sit and see, in my opinion. Onwards and upwards with a continuing message of no, this is not on, is what I would have like to see.

We got a small concession today, a very small one. I believe we rattled Myth last Monday, final nail in coffin type of rattling. He has most likely adjusted the biker increases way back from what he originally was prepared to. Power to us! However, he is on a mission.

[Skyryder]

So, we now have the verdict on these levy increases. I have read that BRONZ are ok with this. Well, to be fair to BRONZ, not happy as much as lets pour oil on the water. Settle things down and wait to see what safety initiatives are forthcoming. We can always protest the levies later.

I think though for a lot of us this has morphed beyond levy increases to a deeper understanding of what is at stake here. As a motorcycling community we have been onto it enough to know from the get go this was not all about us.

"Who's Next" was our slogan from the start. I am not sure about you guys but...

I am not about to go away.

For me this is, and always has been about the long haul. Apparently we now have really got the message home, we are not facing anywhere near as big a hike as was muted. They listened/we won.

Not as far as I am concerned.

Sure they heard us loud and clear. We took it to the steps of parliament and also drove the message home all over the show. But we still face being singled out, we still face the errosion of a world class accident prevention, compensation and rehablitation scheme, although the Minister responsible for it calls it an insurance scheme. My argument is simple. ACC is not an insurance scheme. It was founded on the Woodhouse principles and frankly the powers that be have NO RIGHT to change it.


I have not read anything on here since this afternoon, so apologies if I am reinventing the wheel a bit. I am still very angry, I doubt I am alone.

I agree but with the President of the Ulysess Club condoning the rise as acceptable the motocycling fraternity seem to now be divided and weakened

From a tactical perspective I'd go for another rally at Parliment.

The Theme?? WE WILL BE BACK. That would give BRONZ plenty of time for another rally prior to the next election.

Skyryder