Separate the Police from the scum...

[Ixion]

You're having a laugh, surely.

I'm one of the scum (ex-ACC, ex-MoT), and if I was really zealous I'd just wait at a roundabout and ticket every person who didn't indicate. Hell, it would be so much easier than doing what we do now.

There are 100 ways we could write more tickets, but we don't as we tend to target specific offences. My team now stake out intersections and deal with people who crash traffic lights, or who fail to stop at stop signs.

Hell, if I was zealous my lot could triple our output.

Yes, but by your own statement, you are old school snake.

The snakes could be real zealous, sure. And so are some of todays cops. But it is a question of what they are being zealous ABOUT.

I never had much complaint about the snakes (well, I did complain, one has to, but I knew that it just for the form of it). If you came to their attention you could expect them to be tough. But, if you came to their attention it was likely because you were doing something actually unsafe or stupid, not just because of some pedantic rule breach. Ride sensible and you were like as not ignored or signalled to slow down. (which does still happen today of course)

The traffic cops employed by the small towns and broughs were a whole different matter. They were just plain power mad bastards. ACC and MoT were professionals.

[scumdog]

If you came to their attention you could expect them to be tough. But, if you came to their attention it was likely because you were doing something actually unsafe or stupid, not just because of some pedantic rule breach.

Like the number plate on your bike being bent? (to fit the bracket).

Does that fit the 'unsafe or stupid' catagory enough...

[Patrick]

Wrong.

It is my experience.

Have I met you??

My experience too.

Apparently some don't need to meet people to make up their own minds about others.......

[Fatjim]

I find there are just too many things to whinge about in this life.

[smoky]

Have I met you??

I don't need to meet you to know you're small
P.S - it's only the interet, it's only opinion

[FJRider]

I find there are just too many things to whinge about in this life.

Must be the Goverments fault that ... if they did their job right, we wouldn't have anything to moan about.

Time for a change maybe ... ???

[red mermaid]

Must be the Goverments fault that ... if they did their job right, we wouldn't have anything to moan about.

Time for a change maybe ... ???

Hell yeah, its got to be someone elses fault..it could never be mine!

[Morcs]

So if they split them back up again, we dont have to pull over for the traffic guys cos they arent cops ay?

[red mermaid]

So if they split them back up again, we dont have to pull over for the traffic guys cos they arent cops ay?

MoT officers could arrest for failing to stop, so if you drove dangerously while failing to stop for them, they could arrest you for failing to stop but not for dangerous driving.

[CookMySock]

Actually the Oldskool MoT boys I have never had a problem with. Ever. Theres a couple of them around here, and they have had more than one occasion to speak with me over the years, and every time bar none they have been firm but fair, and if I was doing something stupid I got told and/or fined, and when there was something to be rectified I was told to go rectify it, or else. And I did.

To this day I have nothing but respect for them, and I appreciate the work they do keeping things in check on the roads. Sometimes I get a finger waggle reminder, and sometimes I get a written reminder. Fair is fair.

The sworn police are quite a different matter. Without fail, when I need their help they want to argue about what I might have done to bring the situation upon myself, and when someone ELSE has some menial complaint against me the book of fine print comes out and I get the long lecture followed by the throwing of said book. Fuck them. I won't talk to them again about anything.

Bring back the MoT officers I reckon.

Steve

[oldrider]

Bring back the MoT officers I reckon.

Steve

You have very little personal control over that happening!

You do have 100% control over "Steve"!

Try creating change by working on improving his performance!

Then again getting positive change there may prove more difficult than bringing back the MOT officers!

[CookMySock]

You have very little personal control over that happening!

Well it does not bother me greatly. It is more an observation than a wish.

You do have 100% control over "Steve"!

Well that is the assumption and we can only but strive.
Steve

[scumdog]

Actually the Oldskool MoT boys I have never had a problem with. Ever. Theres a couple of them around here, and they have had more than one occasion to speak with me over the years, and every time bar none they have been firm but fair, and if I was doing something stupid I got told and/or fined, and when there was something to be rectified I was told to go rectify it, or else. And I did.

To this day I have nothing but respect for them, and I appreciate the work they do keeping things in check on the roads. Sometimes I get a finger waggle reminder, and sometimes I get a written reminder. Fair is fair.

The sworn police are quite a different matter. Without fail, when I need their help they want to argue about what I might have done to bring the situation upon myself, and when someone ELSE has some menial complaint against me the book of fine print comes out and I get the long lecture followed by the throwing of said book. Fuck them. I won't talk to them again about anything.

Bring back the MoT officers I reckon.

Steve

So how DO you tell an Oldskool MoT boy from 'sworn police' these days - both lots wear the same uniform. (Yes, there's still ex-MOT patrolling the roads...)

[nodrog:Me]

Actually the Oldskool MoT boys I have never had a problem with. Ever. Theres a couple of them around here, and they have had more than one occasion to speak with me over the years, and every time bar none they have been firm but fair, and if I was doing something stupid I got told and/or fined, and when there was something to be rectified I was told to go rectify it, or else. And I did.

To this day I have nothing but respect for them, and I appreciate the work they do keeping things in check on the roads. Sometimes I get a finger waggle reminder, and sometimes I get a written reminder. Fair is fair.

The sworn police are quite a different matter. Without fail, when I need their help they want to argue about what I might have done to bring the situation upon myself, and when someone ELSE has some menial complaint against me the book of fine print comes out and I get the long lecture followed by the throwing of said book. Fuck them. I won't talk to them again about anything.

Bring back the MoT officers I reckon.

Steve

for fucksake, does nobody like you?

[Tony.OK]

So how DO you tell an Oldskool MoT boy from 'sworn police' these days - both lots wear the same uniform. (Yes, there's still ex-MOT patrolling the roads...)

Shouldn't be too hard.................they'll be the last ones to turn up to a real police callout