North Shore: Northern Motorway: Police targeting motorcycles (25 January)

[Ixion]

It is certainly legal for bicycles - not more than two though. AFAIK th law is silent on other vehilces "sharing". Not really relevant in a lane splitting context though, since the splitter is usually overtaking the vehicle to his left (and the one to his right for that matter , but that vehicle is obviously in a different lane. Yes, it is. Always)

[BoristheBiter]

I always thought sharing a lane would mean riding alongside someone in their lane... and you're saying that's not actually possible?

no. I am saying that it doesn't exist in the rode code.
there are recommendations about sharing a lane with another bike but not with cars.

[BoristheBiter]

It is certainly legal for bicycles - not more than two though. AFAIK th law is silent on other vehilces "sharing". Not really relevant in a lane splitting context though, since the splitter is usually overtaking the vehicle to his left (and the one to his right for that matter , but that vehicle is obviously in a different lane. Yes, it is. Always)

if you watch most bikes while lane splitting they are on the left of a car in the lane as like said above when in cages we always stay to the right
(yes i am generalizing)

[firefighter]

WTF you can't share lanes, you are ether behide someone or in front or overtaking

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/ro...g/passing.html

You can pass where there is a no-passing line, legally. (yes I know the m-way does'nt have these but just for arguments sake)

You can pass at a no-passing line if:

•you stay on your side of the solid yellow line, and
•you can see 100 metres of clear road in front of you for the whole time while you are passing, and
•the lane is wide enough for two vehicles.

FYI - Lane splitting is not sharing a lane, it's passing.

I found no such literature to do with motorway riding, for or against overtaking within your lane, this is the closest information in regards to this i've seen, and it's in our favour.

[MSTRS:Me]

An Inspector is a rank and usually is in charge of at least 30 staff.
When he/she issues a directive they expect to see action and hold their staff accountable to show them their activity...just like any workplace really.

Give 'em any title you like. I still stand by what I said. These people do not make the law. They are there to enforce it. A dislike of (m/c for instance) is not grounds for targeting them for stuff which is not against the law.

WTF you can't share lanes, you are ether behide someone or in front or overtaking.
Any if these if not done to the road code can get you a ticket.

FYI these pricks as you call them you tossed up fuck don't need to make the laws they are allready there.
the fact that most cops don't give a rats about lane splitting doesn't make it legal to do.
its the fact that they are clamping down on this is the thing you have to watch out for.

so if you want to fight a ticket you tell the copper who gives you a ticket and you can argue the toss with him.

"Sharing"...as in beside the other vehicle whilst passing it. Within the same lane, to the right of that vehicle, but to the left of the rightside lane marking.
As for your name calling of me...where do you get off? FYI there IS NO LAW AGAINST LANESPLITTING. So any cop (or Inspector prick) who targets all instances of lanesplitting saying it's illegal etc is not doing their job Which is to enforce the law. Not make up new ones to suit themselves.

if you watch most bikes while lane splitting they are on the left of a car in the lane as like said above when in cages we always stay to the right
(yes i am generalizing)

Now that is illegal.

[FROSTY:Me]

Reality check here guys n gals. The cops themselves couldn't give a flying #### about you lot splitting lanes.
But what has happened is a or several"concerned drivers" have phoned in and complained.
MOST LIKELY this is as a result of some tosser going at silly speeds zig zagging all over the motorway and fucking it up for the rest of us. You have all now been tarred with the same brush and the cops then are having a crackdown.

[red mermaid]

Reality check here guys n gals. The cops themselves couldn't give a flying #### about you lot splitting lanes.
But what has happened is a or several"concerned drivers" have phoned in and complained.
MOST LIKELY this is as a result of some tosser going at silly speeds zig zagging all over the motorway and fucking it up for the rest of us. You have all now been tarred with the same brush and the cops then are having a crackdown.

I would say you are about 100% correct there, and if the police do nothing about it then the car drivers will complain. Its a wonder the car drivers haven't got a web site called Kiwi Cars where they spend all day bitching and moaning, especially about crazy motorcyclists lane splitting.

[yachtie10]

Reality check here guys n gals. The cops themselves couldn't give a flying #### about you lot splitting lanes.
But what has happened is a or several"concerned drivers" have phoned in and complained.
MOST LIKELY this is as a result of some tosser going at silly speeds zig zagging all over the motorway and fucking it up for the rest of us. You have all now been tarred with the same brush and the cops then are having a crackdown.

fair enough, but for them to say" lanesplitting is illega"l is not part of their job. in fact i would say it was illegal to claim an action is illegal when it is not.

Most cops are just doing their job but there seem to be few (like in most occupations) who are just wankers

[FROSTY:Me]

Actually ya know i've been "lucky" enough to have and have had a few cops as freinds or close associates over the years.
Not one of em i would ever call a wanker though in all honesty the utter crap they put up with from the general population It suprises me how level headed and reasonable they are.
I did meet one bike cop once that tore huge strips off my back for"riding like an idiot". I thought he was a wanker at the time.a few years later i actually recalled the entire conversation not the bit i conveniently "chose" to remember.
He had just come back from the watchhouse having had to change his clothes which were covered in blood.
His last call was to clean up the remains of a biker/car head on.
As much as we would like to look at the uniform and the flashing lights and see robots cops are human beings.

[The Pastor]

wtf you can't share lanes, you are ether behide someone or in front or overtaking.
Any if these if not done to the road code can get you a ticket.

Fyi these pricks as you call them you tossed up fuck don't need to make the laws they are allready there.
The fact that most cops don't give a rats about lane splitting doesn't make it legal to do.
Its the fact that they are clamping down on this is the thing you have to watch out for.

So if you want to fight a ticket you tell the copper who gives you a ticket and you can argue the toss with him.

oh baby, i love it when you get so angry. Oooooh yeah!

no. I am saying that it doesn't exist in the rode code.
There are recommendations about sharing a lane with another bike but not with cars.

road code isn't a legal document.

[Mully]

Not true. How many have a ticket for 111kph, on a sunny day and empty straight road?

Probably several. But how many here (not that they'd admit it) have been let off doing 111km/h on a sunny day and empty straight road?

Or how many have been ticketed for the 111km/h but let off on the expired rego or, in actual fact, the 141km/h (wherein they'd be walking for at least 28 days)?

The only time I've personally seen people get pinged for every single thing under the sun that they could get pinged for was when they failed the Attitude Test (tm).

[Swoop]

It is what we always see at this time of year. Nothing new. A "little crack-down" to set the rules on who-is-boss and then we all get back to normal...

overtaking in an unaviable lane.

If a person can be in that lane, then it must be "available" eh?

[Mully]

If a person can be in that lane, then it must be "available" eh?

He said "unaviable" - which I presume means no birds allowed.

[Swoop]

He said "unaviable" - which I presume means no birds allowed.

So, a "cage driver" is fine???

[Ixion]

He said "unaviable" - which I presume means no birds allowed.

So, we deduce that the original cop was actually trying to pull a bird? And got pissed off because all he got was male type bikers and Honda riders?