What a knob: Came off today

[SixPackBack]

What a knob.

Was coming into a corner. Had a little bit of gravel on it. That wasn't the issue.

Changed down, didn't blip hard enough, rear wheel started snaking. Gave it some gas and almost got it back in control, but then the rear wheel hit the gravel and rear went from going a little bit sideways to a lot sideways, and finished off doing a low side.

I doubt I was going that fast when I hit the gravel. Was wearing two piece leathers, and no injuries.

Smashed off the bikes left mirror, left rear indicator, left foot peg, and painfully, seem to have put a pin hole sized hole in the left hand side of the crank case. It now has a very slow oil link.
A few scratches on the fairings, not not enough to bother me.

Rode the bike home. Most annoying bit was the missing left foot peg. Very tiring not being able to rest your foot on something.

So off to Cycletreads and perhaps the wreckers tomorrow to buy the replacement bits. Will rip the fairings off so I can check to see if there is any other hidden damage.


Completely my own fault. Completely avoidable. Pure rider error. Bummer.

I wish I could say I've learnt something from the experience. I can't say I have. That's the worst bit. I'd approach the corner again at the same speed and in the same way. Just need to make sure I don't fuck up the blip next time.

My bullshit meter just went thermo nuclear.

[boomer]

my bullshit meter just went thermo nuclear.

i do believe its #2

[YellowDog]

coz in one breath hes sayin hes really safe,responsible and at the back at track days and on rides etc,next breath hes droppin into first at 9k rpm approaching a corner on unfamilier public road coz he wants to get the power down etc...........is this what they teach at ART track days..............like i said im old and somewhat confused on this thread,doesnt stack up,must be a piss take.............i dont mind tho.........got my post count up......and he wasnt hurt for the experience............so lesson learned one hopes

Maybe we should all try the same and then post the various results.

[p.dath]

Whilst first gear might be good in acceleration up to 100km/hr. I doubt you could go down into 1st gear at 100km/hr.

My question to you is? Would you go into first if you were in a car? Nope. Didn't think so. Well, the same kind of rules apply to bikes. at 100km/hr. You are asking for trouble for even thinking about dropping her into first gear. Suggest you go back to learning to ride and getting to know about gears and safe speeds etc

Well, I was not travelling at 100km/h at the time. I was quite a bit slower. But I do agree, if I was already at 100km/h I wouldn't change down into 1st. I would be hitting redline straight away, and would be needing to change straight back up again.

Probably only one of the cars I have owned I would have dropped into 1st, and that was a 2l (but not at 100km/h, if would have redlined as well). The rest either had enough torque that it didn't matter, or were so gutless it didn't matter.

[CHOPPA]

I dont see you with any silver ware worth harping on about.... * edit, is that why you had your nose put out, are you an 'instructor' at the ART days?

I wasnt suggesting i was anything special rather just suggesting that I have seen you ride and you really aint in the position to comment on peoples riding skills....

[Ixion]

I've experienced plenty of compression lock up if you want to cal it that into corners,on gravel.I don't ride sportsbikes,and probably never will.Do you want answers or not?

don't usually have to worry about a highside on gravel

dropping into 1st @ 9000 on a corner on a sprotsbike is .... Interesting

might be best not to try it on a two smoker. Anyway you are ok, bikes ok ish so alls well,.

[jonbuoy]

9000 RPM in first would be around 70KM/H no? Luck you are OK mate could have easily been a highside.

[SPP]

Hey p.darth,

The message coming through is that what you tried to do rather than how you did it was the issue in this case. I’d suggest looking at why you thought you needed to grab such a low gear rather than focussing on how to grab a gear. The answer could be as simple as speed up a little and flow through. I don’t know, I’m only speculating.

Nobody on here knows your riding better than your mentor. Go see him or her and show them. They’ll help you correct it.

ART days are awesome aren’t they (or any track time when you receive trusted instruction for that matter). What better place to learn about bike and rider? Don’t directly transfer all of it to the road though, horrible shit waits there.

Hope the repairs don't sting too much but on the upside you now have an excuse to add some bling!

[p.dath]

9000 RPM in first would be around 70KM/H no? Luck you are OK mate could have easily been a highside.

I think you would be right about the speed. Since the event I've considered a high side, and yes, I'm glad a high side didn't happen. Could have been a different outcome.

The message coming through is that what you tried to do rather than how you did it was the issue in this case. I’d suggest looking at why you thought you needed to grab such a low gear rather than focussing on how to grab a gear. The answer could be as simple as speed up a little and flow through. I don’t know, I’m only speculating.

Thanks for the summary. I've been reflecting in this area as well, and there is some truth in it.

[boomer]

I wasnt suggesting i was anything special rather just suggesting that I have seen you ride and you really aint in the position to comment on peoples riding skills....

You're mistaken, you've never seen me ride.. ! I think you're confusing me for Gixser!

[CHOPPA]

You're mistaken, you've never seen me ride.. ! I think you're confusing me for Gixser!

hahaha yeah maybe!!

[FROSTY:Me]

I think you would be right about the speed. Since the event I've considered a high side, and yes, I'm glad a high side didn't happen. Could have been a different outcome.
Thanks for the summary. I've been reflecting in this area as well, and there is some truth in it.

Mate please have a yarn to your mentor about this.I feel the value of this crash to you hasn't yet been found and It could be VERY valuable.

on a side note-- unexpected gravel on a corner can be really tricky shit to deal with on a sprot bike with wide tyres and fark all weight. I reccomend a bit of driftyuy sand riding on a little trailee

[pc220]

Just wondering why someone who is a fairly conservative would be worried about having max power avaliabe out of the corner. I would have thought that being in the upper power/rev range could pose even more of a problem than not enough.I guess i am just a bit of a lazy rider and by no means very experianced, I enter a corner slow and exit slow often only in the 3-4k rev range.My point is.... i dont know, just trying to weed out the bullshit and extract the useful info.

[p.dath]

on a side note-- unexpected gravel on a corner can be really tricky shit to deal with on a sprot bike with wide tyres and fark all weight. I reccomend a bit of driftyuy sand riding on a little trailee

Yeah, I'm seriously considering going over to sandspit and having a play on their beginner course.

[Katman]

Are you seriously saying that you dropped it into 1st at about 70kph so you had sufficient power to exit the corner....... but that you don't treat the road as a racetrack???????

Grow a fucking brain!