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    Quote Originally Posted by kwaka_crasher View Post
    the legislation states that you may operate a non-compliant vehicle on the road provided it is being operated solely for the purpose of bringing it into compliance and that it is safe to be operated for that purpose.
    Ok, lets try this then, if it's safe to use, then it is up to standard, so you are no longer bringing it into compliance, as it is already. If not, then it's not safe, again you may not use it. True?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEATH_INC. View Post
    Ok, lets try this then, if it's safe to use, then it is up to standard, so you are no longer bringing it into compliance, as it is already. If not, then it's not safe, again you may not use it. True?
    No. It can be safe yet not compliant (slightly oversize chip in a windscreen, blown forward facing position lamp).
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    Or , even better examples, it may be non compliant because of excessive noise, or excessive engine smoke. Neither of which have any bearing whatsoever on safety.
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    I'll give ya 1/2 point each, a large chip obscures you veiw and/ or weakens the structure, and excessive smoke does the same to others....
    I will concede the noise/ park light though....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEATH_INC. View Post
    I'll give ya 1/2 point each, a large chip obscures you veiw and/ or weakens the structure, and excessive smoke does the same to others....
    I will concede the noise/ park light though....
    If your Honour pleases...

    Also, if your vehicle has failed on brake efficiency or balance by 2% is it instantly 'unsafe'? Or if it has failed on that and you've returned home and determined that new pads are required and they are stocked only by the specialist 50km away and you drive your non-compliant car to pick them up are you not operating it solely for the purpose of bringing it into compliance? If so is it unsafe to do so? It might be marginally less safe... but is that actually unsafe?
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    So, if my car fails its WoF becasue of excesse noise : and I drive it home , and phone my local garage - "can you fit a new zorst please". And they say "Oh your car is weird and perverted. You'll have to take it out to SuperDuper Exhaust Manufacturers for them to measure it all up. Once they've measured it, they'll make a new exhaust system and deliver it to us. We'll call you and you bring the car round to us and we'll fit the new system,and you can take it back to the WoF place".

    And I do all that.

    So , are we agreed then, that is all legal. because it is all done for the purpose of "bringing into compliance" (even if it's not driving back to the WoF place) ; and the vehicle is safe to drive?

    (Yes I know that Super Duper could probably fit the exhaust themselves. But lets assume they don't want to , because my car is fitted the Elbonian bolts which no-one but my local garage has spanners for)
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    I took kwaka_crashers advice- have a look at the XN85 thread.

    And his advice works...apparently....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwaka_crasher View Post
    No. It can be safe yet not compliant (slightly oversize chip in a windscreen, blown forward facing position lamp).
    I actually agree with you Kwaka, the law is vague as to what you don't require to be 'road legal' for.
    However with the above faults, both can be described as a "distraction" which is covered by the section of the law I quoted. However I believe there may be something, covered by the wof that wont fall under the terms "distraction" , "unsafe" or "dangerous" that you could get away with. I have no idea what these would be though. But the law is very specific to point out those three key words. However this would then fall under the judges perception - which may not be biased towards your favour.
    Either way I still don't think its worth the risk.
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