Will You Crash Your Motorcycle?

**John** · 8th May 2005, 23:57

Originally Posted by Zed

That's fine, if you have nothing constructive to add you need say no more, because if you do it will be considered trolling.

Sorry the post wasnt intended for you, It was for waylander when he asked;

Are you asking if we think we will have a wreck in the future

**Zed** · 9th May 2005, 00:04

Originally Posted by MacD

...This thread is making me nervous though, talk about tempting fate...

It doesn't have to be that way. This is a 'reality check' discussion that's all!

**Ixion** · 9th May 2005, 00:20

Originally Posted by Zed

Yes, that is one key, and there is a level of fun in doing that as I found out on the newbie ride yesterday. I'm more interested though in the keys to successful 'binlessness' in the higher levels of fun! :spudbn:

Well, in all seriousness, a fast nana.

It seems to me that there are four main types of incidents that cause people to crash

Intersection crashs.(you crossing some elses path, they crossing yours)
Too fast through a corner (bad judgement, bad surface, whatever)
Overtaking (you or someone else)
Hitting something on the road in front of you (obstacle, dog, debris, car pulls out etc)

And then the rare freaky ones of mechanical failure, flooded roads etc which are almost Acts of God.

Very few crashes ever occur because a bike is simply going fast in a straight line on its ownside of the road, with nothing in front of it.

I'd be pretty confident that most experienced riders could travel at 300+ kph indefinately in safety UNTIL they had to turn; or other traffic became involved; or they left their own side of the road; or they encountered an obstacle. It's almost simplistic when you think about it.

You yourself avoided bnning for 20 years. So you must have a pretty good idea how to deal with those hazards.

I guess paranoia when encountering other traffic : they WILL pull out in front of you. They WON'T give way.

Always go through a corner significantly slower than your maximum.If you are certain you can take it at 150, take it at 120. Certain you can swan round at 80? Go through at 70

Watch out for Ubiquitous Dog and the Interchangeable Mabels. Remember they will not be able to judge your speed if you are doing more than about 80. Mabel has never driven at more than 100kph, she has no idea how to judge the closing speed of someone doing twice that.

Stay on your own side of the road. Or at least make ABSOLUTELY certain nothing else is coming.

I suppose it can be summed up simply enough

SLOW DOWN and WATCH OUT.

Problem is most bikers don't really want to slowdown, they want to test their limits. And even the most vigilant watch will fail sometimes.

Then it is up to the biker gods.

So we may add BE LUCKY

SLOW DOWN : WATCH OUT: BE LUCKY.

Then when you get to the straight bit of road (with maybe some good predictable corners),with no other traffic around; and no sideroads, farmgates etc - FANG IT.

Don't know any more than that.

**oldfart** · 9th May 2005, 20:57

now let me see 75% have crashed, 20% haven't but have been riding less than 10 years, pity the poll didn't have 1 year or less.

like I said before, gravity will always win "It is INEVITABLE"

**Waylander** · 9th May 2005, 21:00

Originally Posted by oldfart

now let me see 75% have crashed, 20% haven't but have been riding less than 10 years, pity the poll didn't have 1 year or less.

like I said before, gravity will always win "It is INEVITABLE"

Nothing is inevitable, only probable.

**Jamezo** · 9th May 2005, 21:30

um, death? (and taxes...)

**Waylander** · 9th May 2005, 21:52

Originally Posted by Jamezo

um, death? (and taxes...)

Death maybe but give science a chance and as for taxes... government officials and big companies have been avoiding those for years.

**Jamezo** · 9th May 2005, 22:35

Originally Posted by Waylander

Death maybe but give science a chance and as for taxes... government officials and big companies have been avoiding those for years.

aww, the writings of your own countryman are lost on you:

"In this world nothing is certain but death and taxes." - good ol' Benjamin Franklin

**gamgee** · 9th May 2005, 22:46

does binning on a sheet of ice on a sj50 count, cause if it does that farken sucks, it wasn't my fault i did everything right, put both feet down to keep myself up, was sliding down the hill at maybe 20kmh then some guy on the side of the road grabbed the pack rack which caused the bike to swing round and tip over, didn't even get a scratch, the bike had a couple of little ones but that was about it, NEVER crashed on my proper bike

**Mr Skid** · 9th May 2005, 23:02

Originally Posted by gamgee

does binning on a sheet of ice on a sj50 count, cause if it does that farken sucks

I think anyone keen enough to try to ride a scoot on ice is a legend.

**Holy Roller** · 9th May 2005, 23:31

Usually been an excuse to upgrade...
Well this time anyway... got one heck of a lot of motorcycle for a reasonable amount of mulah

**Ixion** · 9th May 2005, 23:38

Originally Posted by gamgee

does binning on a sheet of ice on a sj50 count, cause if it does that farken sucks, it wasn't my fault i did everything right, put both feet down to keep myself up, was sliding down the hill at maybe 20kmh then some guy on the side of the road grabbed the pack rack which caused the bike to swing round and tip over, didn't even get a scratch, the bike had a couple of little ones but that was about it, NEVER crashed on my proper bike

No, I don't think that counts. it is like off road riding, or dropping the bike putting it on the centre stand. we're talking (well I am anyway), "real" crashes - the sort that *could* even if they didn't , lead to injury, ambulance, titanium, broken bikes. And where you the crash was "unlooked for" - which is the difference to off road/track, where a crash is sort of anticipated (I really really hope no-one here rides on the road anticipating to crash)

**Zed** · 10th May 2005, 11:00

Originally Posted by gamgee

does binning on a sheet of ice on a sj50 count...

Sorry but scooter accidents don't count! What on earth were you doing on a scooter in an Ice-Rink any way? See that's what I mean about the strange mentality of scooter riders!!

jk

**skidz** · 11th June 2005, 23:25

Had many a misshap, but the biggist one had to be a head on I nearly walked away from. Must have been my lucky day. ( Only a broken arm & LEG.)

**idb** · 12th June 2005, 02:10

Originally Posted by Ixion

No, I don't think that counts. it is like off road riding, or dropping the bike putting it on the centre stand. we're talking (well I am anyway), "real" crashes - the sort that *could* even if they didn't , lead to injury, ambulance, titanium, broken bikes. And where you the crash was "unlooked for" - which is the difference to off road/track, where a crash is sort of anticipated (I really really hope no-one here rides on the road anticipating to crash)

Well now I'm offended.
So my prangs aren't considered "real crashes".
It's quite obvious that I must try harder.