Will You Crash Your Motorcycle?

NC · 12th June 2005, 09:44

Technically I don’t call them ‘bins’ or ‘crashes’ because I’ve walked away from them un-scathed, even at over 100km.. And writing a bike off into a taxi..

**loosebruce** · 12th June 2005, 22:44

I dont plan on crashing and i'm not really keen on chucking myself down the road, as fun as it is, it's farkin expensive. But shit happens plain and simple and so do mistakes, i accept that, and i will crash. With this i make sure when i ride eh faster than normal, i take all the precautions i can, full leathers, boots, lid etc and it all helps when that big off comes, been there done that.

**Jantar** · 12th June 2005, 23:21

Originally Posted by Ixion

No, I don't think that counts. it is like off road riding, or dropping the bike putting it on the centre stand. we're talking (well I am anyway), "real" crashes - the sort that *could* even if they didn't , lead to injury, ambulance, titanium, broken bikes. And where you the crash was "unlooked for" - which is the difference to off road/track, where a crash is sort of anticipated (I really really hope no-one here rides on the road anticipating to crash)

So, like idb, i guess most of my crashes don't count either.

Crash #1. Head on with a car when a truck was coming towards me on my side of the road. I was on an NZeta, so that doesn't count.

Crash #2. Came off in the gravel on the Waipori gorge road, on a T125. Gravel is a bit like off road, so that doesn't count.

Crash #3. A tyre blow out on a fully loaded GT380. Mechanical failure, so that's like an act of god.

Crash #4. A slide on black ice, on a gravel road. Controlled the slide, but then the rear hub of my GT750 split in two as the wheel gained grip once again. Ummm Gravel road, so thats like off road, Ice so thats an act of god, mecahnical failure - another act of god. Even though I was hospitalised, and off bikes for months, I guess that one certainly doesn't count.

Well sorry, but any crash on a road is a crash. The reason doesn't change the fact that you came off.

**Ixion** · 12th June 2005, 23:26

Originally Posted by Jantar

So, like idb, i guess most of my crashes don't count either.

Crash #1. Head on with a car when a truck was coming towards me on my side of the road. I was on an NZeta, so that doesn't count.

Crash #2. Came off in the gravel on the Waipori gorge road, on a T125. Gravel is a bit like off road, so that doesn't count.

Crash #3. A tyre blow out on a fully loaded GT380. Mechanical failure, so that's like an act of god.

Crash #4. A slide on black ice, on a gravel road. Controlled the slide, but then the rear hub of my GT750 split in two as the wheel gained grip once again. Ummm Gravel road, so thats like off road, Ice so thats an act of god, mecahnical failure - another act of god. Even though I was hospitalised, and off bikes for months, I guess that one certainly doesn't count.

Well sorry, but any crash on a road is a crash. The reason doesn't change the fact that you came off.

Nay, gravel road is still a public road. I meant off road as in like race track. Motocross, adventure riding such like. Acts of God still count. But I'd say that those at some very low speed (10kph) don't. Cos otherwise you'd have to count the bike falling off its stand as a crash, which is getting a bit silly. It's people getting hurt when they didn't elect to that we're talking about.

**Bonez** · 13th June 2005, 17:36

1. Tight slippery wet road.
2. Sun in eyes and ran into a trailer
3. Cow shit.
4. Fell off the road at night after a few.
5. Car pulled in front of me.
6. Car ran into me.
7. 6 ft ditch on a gravel road.

Nothing for the last 6 or so years so must be due for another off.

Hmmm now that I think about it these all happened on a Honda...............

**Skyryder** · 13th June 2005, 20:35

Originally Posted by Zed

The title of the thread is "will you crash" meaning future tense and the 3rd paragraph questions the future too. However, the poll covers past crashes.

You're the 2nd peep to admit confusion here? I'm confused by your confusion!

I'm not confused. There is always the possibility that throwing you leg over the saddle will have dire consquences. However if you believe that you will crash in the future you will probably do so as your mindset allows the crash to be acceptable.

Skyryder

**Drew** · 13th June 2005, 20:50

Originally Posted by Skyryder

I'm not confused. There is always the possibility that throwing you leg over the saddle will have dire consquences. However if you believe that you will crash in the future you will probably do so as your mindset allows the crash to be acceptable.

Skyryder

So if you believe you are never going to die, thta is your mind set and it wont happen, WTF?
Shit happens, I crash more then anyone I know, but I certainly don't think I am gonna crash, ever time I get on my bike.
I ride like an arsehole most of the time, but have had most of my bins' when I was riding more sensibly. Go figure!

**DingDong** · 13th June 2005, 20:56

eventually we all crash into/off/on something, It's like asking how many times have you fallen over when walking... we dont want to fall, but we do.

**bear** · 15th June 2005, 11:40

Interesting that the options were for never if been riding for more than 10 years, but for less than 10 years = not yet.

**Jabez** · 15th June 2005, 13:24

Been riding 25yrs, had 1 get off @ 100kph 20yrs ago (Pirelli tyres just let go, no other vehicle involved). Had lots of close calls though.
Just treat ALL other drivers as idiots & expect them to do dum things.

**Skyryder** · 15th June 2005, 22:43

Originally Posted by FIZZERMAN

So if you believe you are never going to die, thta is your mind set and it wont happen, WTF?
Shit happens, I crash more then anyone I know, but I certainly don't think I am gonna crash, ever time I get on my bike.
I ride like an arsehole most of the time, but have had most of my bins' when I was riding more sensibly. Go figure!

So you're another one who can't read. Who said anything about dying............not me. Your analogy is just plain stupid. And at the risk of repeating myself I don't recall saying anyone is going to crash 'ever time' they get on a bike.

You state that you ride like an arsehole and yet most of your bins are when you are riding sensibly. Now that begs the question if you are riding sensibly why are you crashing? You don't agree with my hypothesis, so whats yours?

**Rainbow Wizard** · 27th June 2005, 19:10

From another site:
I just recieved news from Greece that my ex husband's nephew was killed in a motorbike accident. He was travelling at 140kmh and was hit by a car he was overtaking. He was 21 and all I can think is what a damn waste.

Will young men ever learn about the effects of speed and recklessness?

and a reply, not by me....
ahem...I have been in charge of two-wheels and in excess of 210kph however...I have said this many times and I shall continue to do so...I spent 10 weeks doing part 1 of my UK bike test and 3 weeks on part 2. You get to learn a whole lot of control in that time. How to read the road. Signs to watch for, etc. I cannot stress enough how much I appreciate the training I have had. It is not speed it is inexperience and hormones! Also...a lot of people in Greece ride with no lid on. It DOES make a difference...as does part of a dead cow tailored to you.

**Huntaway** · 27th June 2005, 20:40

Only one good bin. Heading towards a blind corner after just overtaking a car - and into a cow being herded the other way by a lone dick of a farmer. Had almost stopped but shouldered her hard in the arse as she suddenly ran across my bows. Shit all over me before jumping back into the paddock where she was supposed to be. Shit happens!

The car I'd just passed never stopped, but hats off to the guy in the ute behind me who did and followed behind (20 km) as I rode the broken CB750 home. Bloody sore for a week and insurance decided repairs would cost more than the bike.

**Jackrat** · 27th June 2005, 21:47

Ok, yeah I've crashed a few times.
Am I going to again ? ,well the stat's say I will but, I say I'm going to do everything I can to avoid it.
The last time was 15 years and 6 bikes ago.
Since the last time my whole attitude to riding has changed a lot.
I've backed off a lot in terms of speed an where I will push things a bit.
Now days I have to have known the road for a while before I'll get up it.
I'm a lot more aware of what's going on around me an back off if I suspect even the slightest danger.Every thing gets a second look,every car is an instant suspect.Every cat,dog, horse,kid,intersection, is a trap ready to spring.Every situation is looked at with the worst case in mind.
I exspect the worst and consider it a bonus if it's not.
I know my worst enemy is ME.
Every prang I've had I can trace back to some thing I either did or did not do,so none of them were inevitable.
I could of died this sunday if I hadn't backed off just that little bit when I saw the truck coming over the brow.
He wasn't the danger but my reaction to him saved my bacon.
Paranoid ??? not me mate,they ARE out to get me.
They just don't know I know.

**stunz** · 12th August 2005, 12:36

have dropped a couple in my time while parking, but never had to ditch the bike at speed and have never argued with the driver of another vehicle through their windscreen.

Admittedly, there have been a number of close calls, but thats just the nature of the beast. In my book, it comes down to rider ability/experience, loads of common sense and two fingers on the brake lever.

Of course, there should be less cars on the road over the next few years

and more bikes

if this petrol price crap keeps going on. $1.43 here in Welly.

I love riding...