Refuelling whilst still mounted

[kwaka_crasher]

Your related to dpex right? what is it with the absolute hatred of authority?

In this instance, what authority? They don't have the authority to tell me I can't sit on my bike to fill it any more than they have the right to tell you to take off your pink tutu to fill yours lest the static electricity causes a spark. The risk is entirely perceived, not actual.

Out of curiosity, and I'm serious about this, are you a cop hater?

Not at all. What I hate is bullshit laws and I'll ignore them - it's my duty as a citizen to do so. If then extra bullshit laws are made in an attempt to stop me ignoring the first ones, I'll ignore them too. Cops are there to enforce the laws, right or wrong. If they can live with being a mindless drone just doing what they're told, that's their problem, not mine. I'll just continue on regardless.

If you don't like the rules then don't shop there. Easy.

They don't get to make the 'rules'.

[red mermaid]

Its there private property and they also have obligations under the Health and Safety in Employment Act, and there equipment so they do get to make the rules.

In this instance, what authority? They don't have the authority to tell me I can't sit on my bike to fill it any more than they have the right to tell you to take off your pink tutu to fill yours lest the static electricity causes a spark. The risk is entirely perceived, not actual.

Cops are not mindless drones. They are doing a job that you do not sound capable of doing, and away from work live a normal life.


Not at all. What I hate is bullshit laws and I'll ignore them - it's my duty as a citizen to do so. If then extra bullshit laws are made in an attempt to stop me ignoring the first ones, I'll ignore them too. Cops are there to enforce the laws, right or wrong. If they can live with being a mindless drone just doing what they're told, that's their problem, not mine. I'll just continue on regardless.

As above, there place so they do get to make the rules.

They don't get to make the 'rules'.

[steve_t]

Not at all. What I hate is bullshit laws and I'll ignore them - it's my duty as a citizen to do so. If then extra bullshit laws are made in an attempt to stop me ignoring the first ones, I'll ignore them too. Cops are there to enforce the laws, right or wrong. If they can live with being a mindless drone just doing what they're told, that's their problem, not mine. I'll just continue on regardless.



They don't get to make the 'rules'.

Seriously? You just ignore the laws you deem to be bullshit? I wonder how society would work if everyone thought the same way. It's your duty as a citizen?

How do you figure that the people who own the business don't get to make the rules about how you, the customer, are to behave in their place of business?

[kwaka_crasher]

Its there private property and they also have obligations under the Health and Safety in Employment Act, and there equipment so they do get to make the rules.

There is considerably more risk of you slipping and injuring yourself on the diesel that is left on the forecourt around the pumps. Once they mitigate that clearly demonstrable actual risk, I'll consider their request that I help mitigate their psuedo-risk.

I ask again... how many people have ever been injured or how much property has been lost directly from this practice?

And the word is "their" not "there". Both times.

Cops are not mindless drones. They are doing a job that you do not sound capable of doing, and away from work live a normal life.

Most are. They subscribe to the philosophy that the rules are the rules and must be obeyed, no matter how ridiculous. At least, that applies to the public anyway.

It's a job I wouldn't want to do - it would conflict with my personal belief that you should actually think. Luckily, there are plenty of people that don't much care for thinking, but love being the bully.

[kwaka_crasher]

Seriously? You just ignore the laws you deem to be bullshit? I wonder how society would work if everyone thought the same way. It's your duty as a citizen?

Fucken' right it's my duty as a citizen to ignore dumb laws. Society would be much better off if everyone did it. But I guess you'll never see that because you're too wrapped up in 'obey the rules' mentality. I hope they make a law telling everyone to jump off the harbour bridge.

How do you figure that the people who own the business don't get to make the rules about how you are to behave in their place of business?

See the pink tutu post.

[Lurch]

Jesus Christ, I'm not sure who I hate more: the whiny bubble wrappers or the self important ignorant cunts.. It's a toughy.

[Berries]

Biking is about reducing risks. Thisis one risk that those that sit astride their bikes to fill can rfeduce. Jeezzz ya gota get off to pay so why not before instead of after.

With your attitude it'll be more luck than 'risk managment' if you live to reach my age.

Bollocks. How many people have been burnt alive in rear ends at petrol stations ? I've never seen it happen in my 20 something years of riding. If I wanted to reduce the risk I'd get a car. Seriously, I think there are many other ways you are likely to get injured with a bike than some spontaneous combustion episode on the forecourt.

[Ixion]

Fucken' right it's my duty as a citizen to ignore dumb laws. Society would be much better off if everyone did it. But i guess you'll never see that because you're too wrapped up in 'obey the rules' mentality. I hope they make a law telling everyone to jump off the harbour bridge.

Well, the entirety of the USA is founded upon such a philosophy. If it was good enough for Ben Franklin, Paul Revere, Tom Jefferson, etc ......

[red mermaid]

And who gets to define what a "dumb" law is?

You? Yeah right!

[kwaka_crasher]

And who gets to define what a "dumb" law is?

You? Yeah right!

Who gets to define what a good law is? Self serving Politicians? Yeah, right!

[steve_t]

Fucken' right it's my duty as a citizen to ignore dumb laws. Society would be much better off if everyone did it. But i guess you'll never see that because you're too wrapped up in 'obey the rules' mentality. I hope they make a law telling everyone to jump off the harbour bridge.

"Of course I plead not guilty to murder your honour. It's a stupid law. If a man looks at my bike or my missus in a way that I deem not cool, I should have every right to slit the dickhead's throat. It's my duty as a citizen to ignore stupid laws."
Not saying that's you but it could be someone else with a "I have every right to choose which laws to obey" mindset. OK, maybe a bit extreme relative to the current topic of sitting on your bike while refilling but you get the idea

[steve_t]

Well, the entirety of the USA is founded upon such a philosophy. If it was good enough for Ben Franklin, Paul Revere, Tom Jefferson, etc ......

I thought it was the ability to be able to say you're doing one thing but actually do another. That's what South Park said anyway rabble rabble

[kwaka_crasher]

"Of course I plead not guilty to murder your honour. It's a stupid law. If a man looks at my bike or my missus in a way that I deem not cool, I should have every right to slit the dickhead's throat. It's my duty as a citizen to ignore stupid laws."
Not saying that's you but it could be someone else with a "I have every right to choose which laws to obey" mindset. OK, maybe a bit extreme relative to the current topic of sitting on your bike while refilling but you get the idea

The difference is damage has been done - there is an injured (is dead injured?) party.

What is the injury caused by me filling my bike while sitting on it?

[BoristheBiter]

"Of course I plead not guilty to murder your honour. It's a stupid law. If a man looks at my bike or my missus in a way that I deem not cool, I should have every right to slit the dickhead's throat. It's my duty as a citizen to ignore stupid laws."
Not saying that's you but it could be someone else with a "I have every right to choose which laws to obey" mindset. OK, maybe a bit extreme relative to the current topic of sitting on your bike while refilling but you get the idea

Beat me too it but i would have changed "dickhead" with kwaka_crasher

[steve_t]

The difference is damage has been done - there is an injured (is dead injured?) party.

What is the injury caused by me filling my bike while sitting on it?

Yeah, fair point.
Where do you stand on seeing people on cell phones and smoking on the forecourt of petrol stations?