Motorcycle Restricted Licence Test (Scam)

**Streetwise** · 1st March 2006, 09:22

Hello all fellow bikers, Is it just me or is the Restricted licence test a complete waist of time, Well for that matter the full test also, Has anyone gone through the testing process and found it to be a good thing ????,

**skelstar** · 1st March 2006, 09:34

I did the restricted test the other day. Bit of a joke. The guy said I was 'clearly a confident rider'...I said 'I should be, I have done 20000kms in 6 months'. I could see his imagination saying 'jeez....20000kms at 70km/h, fark!!!'.

**Streetwise** · 1st March 2006, 09:37

Who was your testing officer do you remember,

**bugjuice** · 1st March 2006, 09:37

what's your point..?

on the same token then, is any test a waste of time? do we just give a license to everyone who wants to ride/drive them?
altho some times I do wonder about some drivers..

i really want to drive a semi-artic truck with another trailer.. never done it before, but I don't need testing to see if I can do it..

**skelstar** · 1st March 2006, 09:41

street - it was an Indian/Pakistani (whatever) guy from the Tory St VTNZ.

You could tell me was a nice guy, but had to have the 'tude from the get go.

Buggy - I think its flawed the way that the time periods are setup. Esp the 70km/h restriction. Feel bad for our sub 25yr old friends.

**Streetwise** · 1st March 2006, 09:42

My point is that the people tesing us have no idea how to ride,,,,, The testers only need a learners licence to test for a full licence test,, That makes me a tad worried about the reality of the test,

**limbimtimwim** · 1st March 2006, 09:43

Originally Posted by Streetwise

Hello all fellow bikers, Is it just me or is the Restricted licence test a complete waist of time, Well for that matter the full test also, Has anyone gone through the testing process and found it to be a good thing ????,

If the majority of road users didn't adhere to at least a similar set of road rules, it'd be chaos. If you pass the test, you (Hopefully) operate a vehicle in a manner not too different from everyone else. So the tests, on a macro scale, are not a waste of time. Having said that, I don't think the tests ever made me as an individual a better road user, they only made me use a road in a manner somewhat consistent with everyone else.

**Mooch** · 1st March 2006, 09:43

Nah , your right ! , Should be able to get a licence out of a weetbix packet.

**bugjuice** · 1st March 2006, 09:43

I think a lot of it is flawed and has been for a long time. But at least something is there. They just need to update it and actually live in the real world.

It'd be nice if someone who made the important decisions like this, actually got on a bike one day, just to see what shit they're causing. Doesn't mean it's all a scam and waste of time tho. If there's no standards, then how do you stop newbies from killing themselves and raising the levies we have to pay?

**Streetwise** · 1st March 2006, 09:44

skelstar, Are you aware that the testers dont actually ride at all, NO EXPERIENCE, how can a non rider be a judge, mmmmmmmmmmmmm i might judge building comps, would you live in the house,

**Mooch** · 1st March 2006, 09:46

Originally Posted by Streetwise

My point is that the people tesing us have no idea how to ride,,,,, The testers only need a learners licence to test for a full licence test,, That makes me a tad worried about the reality of the test,

One of my tests was taken with a M/C cop and the feedback was very worthwhile. I think it's a good thing.

**skelstar** · 1st March 2006, 09:46

Make the R test tougher...but make the period shorter or something. The right kinda test would show up inadequacies in someones riding.

**Ixion** · 1st March 2006, 09:46

One could make an argument that, as far as motorcycles are concerned, an incompetant rider will quickly scare himself so much that he'll give up. So it is sort of self regulating. Which I suspect is the thought at the base of the "test is useless" thinking. Poor riders, who might fail the test, never take it, because they get scared (or Mummy does) and buy a cage instead. Anyone who hangs in there long enough to take the test should pass it (nazi testers excepted). Whcich is probably the logic behind the UK rule, where you are restricted to a small bike for a period, but then move up automatically, without having to take a test.

**bugjuice** · 1st March 2006, 09:46

no, they have to hold a license in order to test someone. The testing officer will hold the right license

on a point tho, you don't have to know how to ride a bike, to see that you can use the road correctly. If you can't ride, then that'll show and you'll fail. If you can ride and can't use the road, then you will fail. If you can ride and use the road correctly, you will pass. Don't need a license to see that. Just need a set of testing points to see that you can use the road in the right manor. A license isn't going to show squat.