Can anyone tell me why bike shops only open for half a day on Sunday?

[avgas]

Its about getting potential customers through the door. Get them in often enough, and they will buy.

Many bars show rugby on large screen TV's. Why not MotoGP or WSBK? Together with breakfast...

I will keep this simple
Deus Ex Machina..... I bought lunch, took photos, and bought a t-shirt. Lucky I didn't have have $30K burning a hole in the back pocket or else I would have also walked out with a bike. Also I paid PREMIUM for all the items I bought ($50 for lunch, $60 for t-shirt)......
Prob the only thing I miss from Sydney.

[SS90]

.... and a little boy waits. A week will be up soon and no answer to my email nor my reminder email. Guess I'll be heading to ebay soon.

Also, R Sole - all good comments from you.

How many times has a slaesman waited for some snot nosed drivler to "come in with the money"......

[SS90]

Over the last month that this thread has been going we (myself ad the misses) have spent over $5k on diferent things for both our road and dirt bikes (tires and gear).
After looking at different shops (7 in total) we have spent it in only 2 shops, why? because not only are they open but they have a good range of gear and helpfull staff. Sure some staff are better than others.
this thread has now become pointless because those who are open will stay open and those who close will continue to stay closed.
People will choose where they shop for a vast range of reasons and nothing will change that. I myself am a loyal customer that will shop at a few places because in general those shops have given me the best service and are open when i need them to be and therefore I will look at them first every time.
If the other bike shops want to stay closed so be it, i will just spend my money elsewhere.

Post a Photocopy of the recept for the 5K spent, or delete your Kiwibiker acount.

Timewaster.

[Brian d marge]

I am learning a lot from this thread

Yes women side of things
I was in Motegi last year and I tool lots of photos of the shops and things to do OTHER than the racing which while i love it was ,,erm not so good as it could have been
Ive said it once Ill say it till Im blue in the face Paeroa is a hidden Jewel

but back on topic , the food was good , the speedway hamburger shop for those that know do wonderful burgers and then there is the kids playground , I could spend hours just in the kids playground !!! TRY electric bikes where I could race my two boys one is 3 the other five ! cool or what

Anyway the missus was bored out of her skull with the racing ( divorce pending) she bought a cup of coffee and texted her friends while the kids were playing

She did go looking around the shop selling gifts which were of a motor vehicle nature , bought some chocolates and I bought a Tee shirt

I have to admit as a family if i were to trundle around the bike shops here , even with the boys , it really does exclude the wife
( which really isn't a bad thing in some way)

Maybe Duex et machina or what ever its call is the way to go with lunch and other stuff ,( a cheaper version for the common man though! )

even a nice chair and a coffee would be a start I suppose , I don't know women are a mystery ,,,never really understood them...
just sharing my observations ,,,

Stephen

[SS90]

Pretty much I guess. Just an alien environment to her. And inhospitable. Nothing pretty there, nothing feminine, no coffee.

I said somewhere earlier, that the chick market should be a valuable one in biking now.

So why not provide a chick friendly area ? As well, or instead of. Not every bike shop has to target the same demographic, y'know. You could have one shop targets the sprotsbikers , as suggested. Another targets the old gits, with more emphasis on DIY and classic stuff. While another targets chicks. With chick friendly show rooms, and some female staff. Bigger shops, have one corner of the showroom for each.

If you were a woman would you want to get undressed in a typical bike shop (to try on the new gear you're looking at) ? I wouldn't.
?
(This does already happen to some extent amongst switched on shops)

Can anyone suggest a motorcycle shop buisness plan that caters to pussywhipped weaklings?

[SS90]

I am learning a lot from this thread

Yes women side of things
I was in Motegi last year and I tool lots of photos of the shops and things to do OTHER than the racing which while i love it was ,,erm not so good as it could have been
Ive said it once Ill say it till Im blue in the face Paeroa is a hidden Jewel

but back on topic , the food was good , the speedway hamburger shop for those that know do wonderful burgers and then there is the kids playground , I could spend hours just in the kids playground !!! TRY electric bikes where I could race my two boys one is 3 the other five ! cool or what

Anyway the missus was bored out of her skull with the racing ( divorce pending) she bought a cup of coffee and texted her friends while the kids were playing

She did go looking around the shop selling gifts which were of a motor vehicle nature , bought some chocolates and I bought a Tee shirt

I have to admit as a family if i were to trundle around the bike shops here , even with the boys , it really does exclude the wife
( which really isn't a bad thing in some way)

Maybe Duex et machina or what ever its call is the way to go with lunch and other stuff ,( a cheaper version for the common man though! )

even a nice chair and a coffee would be a start I suppose , I don't know women are a mystery ,,,never really understood them...
just sharing my observations ,,,

Stephen

If my wife was texting someone while her kids where playing (and I was a Gaijin), I would be worried.

[scott411]

i think comparing Dues to a normal motorcycle shop is a bit off, it is an awesome cafe and clothes shop but have a very small focus in range of bikes , parts, gear etc that they sell

i think some shops have changed in the last 10 years, i know we have, changing rooms are comman place, and alot have free coffee (we do), but alot of shops try to be alot of things to a lot of people, esp in rural towns, you are dealing with farmers, off raod riders, and road riders, each are segregated even further amongst themselves, i think some shops disversify as best they can but it is always a trade off,

[BoristheBiter]

Post a Photocopy of the recept for the 5K spent, or delete your Kiwibiker acount.

Timewaster.

Let me guess, your shop isn't open on the weekend, well boo hoo. Get a life.
If people want to look at what they are going to buy who are you to tell them they can't.
If someone doesn't want to go into a shop because it's a dirty little hole or the staff are shit why is it there fault.
Everyone window shops then a staff member or the like comes over and makes them feel like they are welcome and they buy something. If you haven't grasped this concept you'll go out of business very quickly.

[BoristheBiter]

If my wife was texting someone while her kids where playing (and I was a Gaijin), I would be worried.

Sounds like you would be an outsider where ever you went.

[avgas]

i think comparing Dues to a normal motorcycle shop is a bit off, it is an awesome cafe and clothes shop but have a very small focus in range of bikes , parts, gear etc that they sell

Errr motomail uses the same strategy.

[avgas]

Can anyone suggest a motorcycle shop buisness plan that caters to pussywhipped weaklings?

Local harley shop........*awaits onslaught* hehe

[SS90]

Sounds like you would be an outsider where ever you went.

Sounds like you don't know what a Gaijin is..... you need to get out.

und Sie kannen nicht sprachen deutsch auch............... was ist meher wichtig, ?

So, where is your receipt for the "5 K spent".....??????

[scott411]

Errr motomail uses the same strategy.

fair call, its close, did not really think of them, there products lines in motorcycle gear is a huge compared to Dues tho,

[Ixion]

Well. Well, well. That was an interesting lunch. Quite apart from perving the latest Dodgimocycle.

Finally got my arse into gear, and sussed out Deus ex Machina.

Now, let's see, what have we discussed.

Open Sundays ? Yep. 8 to 3, I can live with that. Saturdays too.
Coffee? Yep. Good
Food ? Yep. Not a big range but good
Nice comfy counches ? Yes. Lot of them
Range of bike gear ? Yes. Limited to their demographic , granted, but that's the business they're in
Other casual clothing. ? Yes.
Separate area for chick stuff ? Yes.
Female sales staff ? Yes.
Bikes on display and to sell ? Yes. Drool
Attentive but not pushy sales staff . Yes. I was looking over the open face helmets. Guy checks , anything you're after in particular? Just browsing. Sure thing, I'm over there if you want anything. And GET THIS - he pointed out the display of goggles! Fuckin' ay. Almost makes me wonder if he's been reading this thread.
Workshop out back, you can watch through a big window. I watched. If you can wrench a DBD34, I reckon you know your bike stuff.
Reasonable range of aftermarket parts and accessories. Again, demographic targeted. They know what business they're in. Some nice stuff there , too. Those ally tanks are to die for.
They harvest email contacts , I put my name down.
Dedicated bike parking at front door.
Lots of magazines (bike ones). No Playstation, not in their demographic.
Place was crowded on a Thursday midday. As in dozens of people. Buying stuff
OK, it's targeted at a specific demographic. The retro/custom/old bugger demographic. Hard core sprotsbikers would be underwhelmed, and there's not much for dirt bikers (except the Goldie scrambler . But you could take that same model, change the gear and the bikes, and target any other rider demographic

Not cheap. I bought some bits , and lunch. Top dollar I guess, I'm sure I could get them cheaper on the net. Y' know what, I don't care. That place made people want to buy. The value perception was good, it was a good experience. I'll be back. And I don't reckon many of the folk buying would be too bothered if you told them they could get the stuff cheaper on the net.

Yeah yeah, I know, it's not the same, it won't work, it's not a "real" bike shop. It's not the good old way so it can't be any good, it's all a conspiracy to undermine real bike shops

. But me, I have seen the future and it works.

[Brian d marge]

I pity the poor bloke she is texting
Stephen