Give way rule to change

[Dim]

About time you guys changed to the proper way of doing things (disclaimer: I'm from Aus )

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...to-change-Govt

[mattian]

About time you guys changed to the proper way of doing things (disclaimer: I'm from Aus )

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...to-change-Govt

I like the idea of catching up with the rest of the world with regards to giving way to right turning vehicles. It doesnt make sense to be one of the only countries in the world doing that. The first few weeks after the rule change would be very interesting. "only considering changes" though. May not ever happen.

[Ferkletastic]

Good to see they're looking into improved rider training and power to weight rules for motorcycles too. It's kinda dumb that I can ride a 45hp bandit 250 but can't ride a 33hp DRZ 400 on my 6R.

[neels]

They might as well change it, I could have at least an accident a day turning right out of the street my work is on with people turning right into it not giving way, the bus drivers are the worst ones for it.

I wonder what they mean by 120 hours of supervised driving, if they're meaning with a driving instructor you'd probably be looking at $10k to get a license.

Licensing for mopeds doesn't sound like a bad idea, at the moment if you want to ride a 50cc motorbike you need to do a handling test and bike learners but to ride a scooter (which isn't really a moped anyway) you do a car scratch and win test and then go riding on a machine that doesn't even require a WOF to check that it's safe to ride. Always seemed a bit strange to me.

[Dim]

I wonder what they mean by 120 hours of supervised driving, if they're meaning with a driving instructor you'd probably be looking at $10k to get a license.

The Idea behind this is to probably bring it into line with similar law in Australia too, where a learner driver has to do x number of hours supervised driving with a fully licensed driver and pass a test at the end before being allowed to drive solo. However where it is in place its not very effective as the logged hours are easy to fudge, and there's no real way to tell if the hours logged have actually been completed (perhaps except from driving standard come time for testing).

[ckai]

The Idea behind this is to probably bring it into line with similar law in Australia too, where a learner driver has to do x number of hours supervised driving with a fully licensed driver and pass a test at the end before being allowed to drive solo. However where it is in place its not very effective as the logged hours are easy to fudge, and there's no real way to tell if the hours logged have actually been completed (perhaps except from driving standard come time for testing).

I'm one of the biggest supports of improved driver education. It's better to educate from the start then to try and discipline bad behaviour (e.g. driving like a dick head, not be courteous to other drivers) but some of the driving instructors are plain daft. I often wonder how they got their ticket. Shouldn't the first thing they teach you be respect your fellow road user? That's not the the reason I call some daft. More so lack of skill in appropriate education.

I can't really see a fool proof way of logging hours unless it's with a certified instructor. I was shitting myself when I got my licence and could drive a car by myself, without every being told what to do when the shit hit the fan.

Half the giveway rules aren't even followed at the mo' so they're obviously confusing a few people.

[Maha]

Cant see it having any effect on the current situations you at intersections to be honest.
People will still look dazed and confused, get three women at an unmraked intersection and watch them all sit and grin at each other.
If you know what I mean.

[sinfull]

Give way ??? WTF

[gtr boy]

Give way ??? WTF

here here i just turn the corner when on the bike,if they dont like it im gone anyway

[FJRider]

The first few weeks after the rule change would be very interesting. "only considering changes" though. May not ever happen.

Few will notice .... as few obey the current rules.

[CookMySock]

I quite like the current give way rules - there's enough people who are unsure, so that I can ride around all of them before anyone has figured out wtf just happened.

Didn't they have a go at changing this just a few years ago?

Steve

[Ixion]

The advantage of the present rule is that if there is a queue built up of left truning cars giving way, it is easy to slip up the inside. And a bike giving way at a left hand turn is in a safe position to the left of the road, can wait safely there as long as necessary

Changed, it will be like the old days- stuck on the centre line, with traffic rocketing by on either side a couple of inches from your elbows, waiting for a gap in the left turning traffic. Not a nice place to be.

[avgas]

I agree with Ix here. If I have to give way to block the straight bit of road to let someone turn in...........to me that is just no common sense.
I also see a few pedestrians getting taken out by someone 'diving left' into the corner to the horror of the guy watching the whole thing as he had to give way.

[kwaka_crasher]

It's wrong to change this. What would be right would be to start hammering the fuckwits who refuse to follow the current rule. Just like the many others like turning into the correct lane of a multilane road and into a public carpark.

[R6_kid:Me]

Makes sense, the T-intersection one doesn't happen so much anyway because most T-intersections have a give-way/stop on the joining road anyway, the "current" rule stands where there are no road markings, and I remember reading it when I sat my licence and thinking WTF that doesn't make sense.