Police killing us again!

[miloking]

If you're that tender you'd better watch out - you'll be easy bait for bigger sharks than me around here.

yes it was the "strap on" comment, it left me all insecure and vulnerable....

Ok Sorry for calling you cop suck up, iam sure you are not....

[riffer]

Hahaha, the difference is that Steve has something I don't.....

A huge pile of infractions?

[Ixion]

Maybe after the impact he realised that he was in a dodgey spot on the backside of a blind rise & drove the car off the road , to minimise further damage to oncoming....?

Or perhaps the startle factor of the crash caused the driver to put his foot on the accelerator , when the vehicle was in reverse. I'm not implying anything sinister in the car's position, merely that the force required to turn it 135 degrees would be very high. Especially bearing in mind, that once it turns 90 degrees , there would be no further energy transfer from the bike (essentailly, at that point the bike and car would be side by side and the bike would glance off the car)

[Deano]

Suck my strap on, dickhead.

Hahaha, the difference is that Steve has something I don't.....

Ok now I'm confused. Are you a lesbian PB - if not, why do you have a strap on ?

Is it for Steve ?

[Fatjim]

Hahaha, the difference is that Steve has something I don't.....

Man boobs?

[Fatjim]

Aye! I skidded a measured by the police 150m on my arse years ago. Speed required for that lil effort? 180kph.

Yeah, but the only drag your short tiny arse has ever seen was Brucetta down Vivian st one Saturday night.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah, but the only drag your short tiny arse has ever seen was Brucetta down Vivian st one Saturday night.

It's name was Brucinda mate...get it right.

[Swoop]

Family and friends of Paul Brown, the motorcyclist killed in a collision with a cop car, have criticised local traffic police, labelling them "a bunch of cowboys".

Cousin Antony Brown yesterday spoke of other crashes involving police vehicles doing u-turns.

A motorcyclist was seriously injured when a police car, responding to an emergency call, made a u-turn on State Highway 2, at nearby Maramarua in December 2007.

"There's an element in the police ... they're a bunch of cowboys. This is not the first time this has happened."

Mr Brown had just left friend Joe MacFarlane's home in Waerenga before the accident.

Mr MacFarlane could not hide his anger. "I cannot understand why an experienced traffic officer would turn around in such a blind spot. It's absolutely ludicrous, I'm blown away. What are they teaching them?"

Friends say the officer should have waited until he was over the hill and turned around in a driveway or a street on the left, about 50m away.

Allan Kirk, head of New Zealand Motorcycle Safety Consultants, said ticket quota-motivated policemen had to learn that other road users' lives were more important than the issuing of a speeding ticket.

"This sort of crash involving police cars has become far too common and it has only been luck that up until now a motorcyclist has not been killed by a u-turning police car. Now the luck of the police and an innocent motorcyclist has run out."

[scumdog]

Indoo keeps demanding Ixion produce evidence of especial MC victimisation. The evidence is both on the street for anyone to see and in the findings of the Goddard report.

So, at the end of all this how many motorcyclists HAVE died as a direct result of the driver of a Police vehicle? That was the simple question asked of Mr I who insinuated it was a constant ongoing event...

And yes, I know even one injured or killed is one too many. (before somebody else jumps on the already creaking band-wagon)

[scumdog]

Is it true that the ones with orange are crime or whatever, and the ones with yellow are traffic?

No.

All new police cars are now yellow/white now, regardless of their intended purpose.

[Wannabiker]

Yep like yourself and unlike the other KB eggsperts I'm not prepared to come to any conclusion until I know a few more facts namely:

How fast was the rider going?
How much distance did the rider have to act before colliding with the Police car?

If the Police car gave 100m visibility then cleared.
If the Police car was within 100m visibility the rider was travelling at the speed limit then yes definately to blame and the cop should be charged.
From the pics it looks pretty close and forgive me for questioning the accuracy of anyones eye-crometer but I'll wait for the facts from someone on the ground.

The yellow line was on the cops side of the road....If it unsafe to do an overtaking move there, then it would also be unsafe to do a "U" Turn, or worse, a 3-point turn..... The yellow line was his not to cross....

[MSTRS:Me]

So, at the end of all this how many motorcyclists HAVE died as a direct result of the driver of a Police vehicle? That was the simple question asked of Mr I who insinuated it was a constant ongoing event...

And yes, I know even one injured or killed is one too many. (before somebody else jumps on the already creaking band-wagon)

The reason why some die, when police are involved, is arguing semantics.
Some of those dead'uns may have died anyway, but some died BECAUSE police gave chase and BECAUSE the runner perhaps sped up.
Yes, they could have stopped, but also yes the police could have used their radio instead of chasing...

[scumdog]

Well fuck me, another cop suck up KB member...read the fricking article, it clearly said that Mr.Wilkin the Motor racer (thus expert on fast vehicles) only heard the whole incident from his back yard but he dared to imply that bike was speeding purely from few seconds of sound!
SO tell me just be cause you hear sound of loud bike can you honestly tell me you know how fast its traveling?

Exactly, seeing as how you were there and know all about how the crash happenedl how DARE Mr Wilkin have the nerve to ofer only a THEORY about the bikes speed, what was he thinking????

[scumdog]

Well even repetition can be a struggle with some of these cops. What I often wonder, is do they (police) attract stubborn single minded twits or do they produce them?

Nah, the public drive 'em into that state of mind T.

[nsrpaul]

looks like cambell live might be worth a watch, interview with the ute driver