Does a Motard belong in "Off road"?

**White trash** · 3rd May 2005, 09:16

I'm noticing (and enjoying) the recent interest in Motards either in their own class of racing or as a street bike.

Question is, do Motard related topics blong here or somewhere else?

Should they even be legal?

Are they named 'tards for any good reason?

Where's my glasses?

**NordieBoy** · 3rd May 2005, 09:33

Originally Posted by White trash

I'm noticing (and enjoying) the recent interest in Motards either in their own class of racing or as a street bike.

Question is, do Motard related topics blong here or somewhere else?

Should they even be legal?

Are they named 'tards for any good reason?

Where's my glasses?

'Tards should be in the road section - Unless you use it for off-road more than road.

Are they legal?

Mo'tards - From the French meaning More Tards.

Your glasses? I just ran them over whilst crossed up exiting the corner on my back wheel

**Quasievil** · 3rd May 2005, 09:47

if they are ridden on the road they belong here if not they belong in off road.

Personally I think they are pretty cool, but on the track they are a pain in the arse, having raced a few at manfield I found them irritating because 1/ they seem to take different lines 2/ they stick there foot out in front of you
3/ they are slow on the straights and fast on the corners

They need to have there own class, they do not belong in F3 thats for sure

thats my view

**badlieutenant** · 3rd May 2005, 10:02

Originally Posted by Quasievil

They need to have there own class, they do not belong in F3 thats for sure

thats my view

agreed, and my mate uses his for both on and off road(not motox tho)

**bugjuice** · 3rd May 2005, 10:06

holy cow!! Nordie, that second pic is pretty cool.. I'd love to be able to trust my tyres that much..

On the flip side of this then, if Motards can be on-road racers, then does that mean we can stick noblies on a 'busa and go nuts? And everyone would be fine with it?

**Motu** · 3rd May 2005, 10:20

A ''real'' Motard races on a track that has seal and dirt - it's doing both,and so is the rider,it's a real crossover,with more emfuciss (correct spelling,I checked) on the dirt side.

So it depends on where the people who ride them are coming from - are they a dirt rider getting their kicks on road,or a road rider getting a taste of dirt bike? I don't care,I got my first trail bike in 1971 and have been riding dirt bikes on the road ever since...so Motards are welcome anywhere from me.

**TwoSeven** · 3rd May 2005, 10:56

They are currently showing the euro-tard racing championship on sky sports. Some pretty good racing. The euros race half dirt half seal with the appropriate jumps and bumps on the dirt portion.

A tard bike is just a normal sit up and beg style road bike with the engine moved forward and a longer swingarm. Your just riding the front wheel - hence the rear slides so much.

**Motu** · 3rd May 2005, 11:22

No,a Motard is a dirt bike with street suspension,wheels and brakes,frame,engine and seating position is pure dirt.

Motards get sideways - street riders shit their pants when that happens,a dirt rider who can't get sideways is a Nancy.

**James Deuce** · 3rd May 2005, 11:35

They have two wheels and an internal combustion engine.

That should be enough.

**Ixion** · 3rd May 2005, 12:09

Originally Posted by Motu

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Motards get sideways - street riders shit their pants when that happens,a dirt rider who can't get sideways is a Nancy.

Gotta admit , getting the BMW sideways was unnerving . But a handlefull of throttle straightened it out .

**Mr Skid** · 3rd May 2005, 12:42

Originally Posted by Ixion

Gotta admit , getting the BMW sideways was unnerving . But a handlefull of throttle straightened it out .

Why would you want to straight out a perfectly good skid? :unsure:

**Ixion** · 3rd May 2005, 12:59

Originally Posted by Mr Skid

Why would you want to straight out a perfectly good skid? :unsure:

Had something to do with the cliff face coming toward me

**bugjuice** · 3rd May 2005, 13:37

Originally Posted by Ixion

Had something to do with the cliff face coming toward me

wuss

**Ghost Lemur** · 3rd May 2005, 15:18

My rudimentary understanding of Motard riding style is from the small amount of research I've been doing on them recently. The concensus I've found from overseas sites is that you ride to conditions. Ie, if you're going around a tarmac corner then you knee down, if you're going around a gravel/dirt corner you use your foot.

Anyone else heard this?

Thoughts?

**White trash** · 3rd May 2005, 15:24

Aaron Slight rides very definitely "road race" style. Wheels in line on the tarmac and he kicked arse.

Good enough for him, more than good enough for Trash.