Bloody stupid irresponsible fools - on two wheels

**Ixion** · 22nd May 2005, 17:08

Not "proper" motorcycles, but those silly damn minichopper things. Small comfort though since in the eyes of the public they will be seen as motorcycles.

Pootling through the shops on my way home and I see a couple of the things parked , with riders on them. Looked like a dad and (early teens) son combo. Those nasty mini-choppers, raked forks etc.

Looked somewhat disapprovingly at them , since they really ought not to be used on the road . But no more than a Nana tut-tut

at that stage, since hopefully they might encourage the lad to get a "real' bike, and I figure if Dad's willing to go along to supervise one might overlook the myriad of laws being broken (no rego, no license for the lad at least, no wof etc).

Until --- just past them I get to the roundabout at the end of the shops, stop for oncoming traffic, in my mirror I see they've started up and are riding up behind me. Hm, ok. Then, just as I start around the roundabout to turn right, the bloody fools *with "Dad" in the lead* roar straight up to the roundabout , cross to the wrong side of the road, and proceed to GO ROUND IT THE WRONG WAY.

I had to take the sort of evasive action that I always dislike, to avoid a head on. After I'd successfully exited the roundabout they went round again. The woman driving a car down the hill, not expecting traffic from her "wrong" side got the fright of her life, locked her brakes on the wet road and end stopped, half sideways across the roundabout itself.

Then the two brainless morons roared off down the road and stopped.

Had it been the young lad on his own, I'd have given him a Nana-lecture. But "Dad" looked a nasty customer , and something told me he was looking for trouble. So valour yielded to discretion, and I passed the details to the gentlemen in blue. Who advised that they'd do what they could, which is doubtless little enough. (No number plates of course)

I am at a loss for words (a rare thing for me) to express how angry that sort of thing makes me.

The technical offences (rego, plates , wof) I could overlook.

Bad enough that neither were wearing helmets let alone any other sort of gear

But deliberately playing that sort of idiot game on a busy roundabout, in the wet leaves me speechless with fury.

If it was "dad", then he deserves to have the kid taken from him, before he gets it killed.

And the worst part of all is that the public who suffer this imbecility will regard them as motorcyclists! when they are anything but !

I guess the only saving grace is that with any luck they'll both kill themselves and improve the gene-stock. Not very nice for whoever ends up taking them out though.

I dispair of the human race at times.

**crashe** · 22nd May 2005, 17:13

Man the "father" is a right farkwit....
putting the car driver at risk....

I mean who the hell goes around the roundabout the wrong way....
Someone who wishes to die.

Hope the boy's in blue find this moron and charge him and throw the book at him...

These bikes are gonna cause a serious accident real soon... well not the bike but the blardy rider.

**John** · 22nd May 2005, 17:16

I feel your pain, I really do - have had alot of similar experiences with those mini-choppers!

One I will never forget, heading home from auckland early one morning and this dickhead on one of those mini choppers decides to just pull out in front of me from his driveway, because you know they are so incredibly powerfull ... freaken had to do a mini endo or I would have killed him (I was abit over the speed limit at that time, just came in from the backroads) only protection he was wearing was one of those illegal fucken german spike helmet things he was a big bloke to, but he would have being sorry if 170kg+ of bike hit him at 100kmph, I just got sideways to him gave him the 'visor up' treatment and left him to putt along.

Ever since then if I see anyone on the road with those I develop 'insta-agro' towards them, the are bloody dumb for the places some people drive them.

**Storm** · 22nd May 2005, 17:18

I couldnt agree more Ixion. Its almost a case of waiting to see the crash reported in the paper

**Jeremy** · 22nd May 2005, 17:38

It's even worse than people on scooters with only class 1 licenses. Banning them isn't going to help as it'll just end up banning the scooters as well. Hopefully there will be a law change requiring you to have a class 6 license to ride motorised two wheeled transport.

**Sutage** · 22nd May 2005, 17:41

Haha, i was in town friday night with some mates (in a cage) and i saw like 8 of them in the carpark we stopped at for a bit. Watching them ride off is hilarious, could be fun tho if ridden sensibly

Most of em are 49cc meaning they dont need a WOF, some are 110 tho.

-Richard

**James Deuce** · 22nd May 2005, 17:41

I feel your pain. Don't you just want to yell, "Ok everybody out of the gene pool," and then only let a select few back in?

**Ixion** · 22nd May 2005, 17:44

Originally Posted by Sutage

Haha, i was in town friday night with some mates (in a cage) and i saw like 8 of them in the carpark we stopped at for a bit. Watching them ride off is hilarious, could be fun tho if ridden sensibly

Most of em are 49cc meaning they dont need a WOF, some are 110 tho.

-Richard

But even so they still must be registered and vinned etc surely. Are any actually legal ?

And they still need helmets is it not.

Are the police turning a blind eye to them ? and if so, why ?

**Kickaha** · 22nd May 2005, 17:50

Originally Posted by Ixion

But even so they still must be registered and vinned etc surely. Are any actually legal ?

And they still need helmets is it not.

Are the police turning a blind eye to them ? and if so, why ?

Yes they can be legal and are supposed to be registered as a moped, something to do with the speed they are capable of and how many KW they put out

**Sutage** · 22nd May 2005, 18:02

Originally Posted by Ixion

But even so they still must be registered and vinned etc surely. Are any actually legal ?

And they still need helmets is it not.

Are the police turning a blind eye to them ? and if so, why ?

They are FULLY road legal, just as much as a car a bike a scooter. As long as they have indicators and a head light and mirror(s?) ( i think, maybe a few more things). they still need rego yeh but no warrant, just like 50cc scooters dont need to be warranted, just kept to 'a warrantable standard" crock of shit if you ask me, i still think they are way too low though, a truck wouldnt even see them until they ran them over, and even then i doubt theyd even notice theyd hit one !

they are damn expensive too !

**Sutage** · 22nd May 2005, 18:03

Yeh and they still need helmets, those guys musta been a right pair of wankers

**Eurodave** · 22nd May 2005, 18:07

The thing that pisses me off is when these non ACC paying minibike riding dickwits have accidents, they will be counted in amongst real motorcycle accidents & artificially increase these statistics & our insurance premiums etc, the same way that other non ACC paying farm bike/trike/quad accidents do

**Zed** · 22nd May 2005, 18:13

Originally Posted by Ixion

...The woman driving a car down the hill, not expecting traffic from her "wrong" side got the fright of her life, locked her brakes on the wet road and end stopped, half sideways across the roundabout itself.

...So valour yielded to discretion, and I passed the details to the gentlemen in blue. Who advised that they'd do what they could, which is doubtless little enough. (No number plates of course)...

So was there actually an accident caused here that got the "gents in blue" involved? Or did they just happen to be at the scene?

Tis not something you see happen everyday Ixion, and it's hard to believe a parent could be so careless about the danger him and his son were in playing silly buggers in the traffic..and in the wet too!

My wife and I saw some scooter riders on our travels today and when I made comment on their total lack of protective wear she said "they must think that it's okay...", to which I replied "no, the problem is that they don't think!"

**FROSTY:Me** · 22nd May 2005, 18:26

Originally Posted by Sutage

They are FULLY road legal, just as much as a car a bike a scooter. As long as they have indicators and a head light and mirror(s?) ( i think, maybe a few more things). they still need rego yeh but no warrant, just like 50cc scooters dont need to be warranted, just kept to 'a warrantable standard" crock of shit if you ask me, i still think they are way too low though, a truck wouldnt even see them until they ran them over, and even then i doubt theyd even notice theyd hit one !

they are damn expensive too !

um er dude--you are so frigging wrong its amazing.
Put the word SHOULD in front of everything you said and you'd be right.
They should be up to WOF standard--yea hows that possible when most of em use like a torch batttery to run the lights horn and indicators.
They should comply--shit they use seagull poo welding and brakes that are off a pushbike.
EVERY vehicle on the road should have to GO THROGH at least one WOF before being allowed on the road
they are pieces of crap and should be banned from public roads but no --the fucking beurocrats will wait till some kid kills themselves on it

**Sutage** · 22nd May 2005, 18:32

Originally Posted by FROSTY

um er dude--you are so frigging wrong its amazing.
Put the word SHOULD in front of everything you said and you'd be right.
They should be up to WOF standard--yea hows that possible when most of em use like a torch batttery to run the lights horn and indicators.
They should comply--shit they use seagull poo welding and brakes that are off a pushbike.
EVERY vehicle on the road should have to GO THROGH at least one WOF before being allowed on the road
they are pieces of crap and should be banned from public roads but no --the fucking beurocrats will wait till some kid kills themselves on it

Haha man, I'm not wrong, the way the thing works is:P they are road legal if they have indicators mirrors lights and all that stuff