Covert tactics to help save lives [NZ Police News]

[Berries]

There was a thing about it on tv, that those speed limits especially the cornering speeds were based on the technology and automobiles of back then.

It is still pretty basic, but they are not speed limits, they are advisory speeds. You can't get done for doing 100 round a corner with a 55 sign. Unless you crash.

[Sentox]

So what is this all about?

That's what I don't get. Only reason I can really see for a camera is to let people build up multiple offences before pulling them over.

[peasea]

I dunno if i'd agree on this being an ambulance at the bottom of the cliff.........

Not directly, but you get my drift. If drivers/riders were educated enough to understand the dangers of failing to operate their machines in a fashion that suited the conditions (and that includes failing to indicate, running reds and so on)then the need for policing would probably be reduced comensurately. In many instances doing 120kph on the open road is quite safe, but failing to indicate at 25kph can be fatal.

[javawocky]

So what is this all about?

I think its a cunning plan to make drivers/riders paranoid when being naughty, so they will be more restrained. In a way its like increasing the Popo force without spending a cent.

Personally, I think they are doing it all wrong, having a more visible police force is probably going to have more effect than being caught out after the fact.

[CookMySock]

"we are sick and tired of attending nonsensical preventable crashes"

I call bullshit.

It's not the polices' position to be "sick and tired" of any fucking thing. If they are truly "sick and tired" they should fuck off elsewhere and get a different job, or else they should shut the fuck up, suck their guts in, and bite the fucking bullet like the rest of us ordinary citizens have to do.

I would hazard a guess, that ordinary citizens are also "sick and tired" of the police' stupid fucking tactics and irresponsible and full /pedant mode policing that irritates people and causes them to hate the police.

Fuck them. I'm sick and fucking tired too - everyone is suck and fucking tired. Somewhere both our "sick and tired" is going to meet in the middle and go critical mass, and public scrutiny come hatred is going to turn on the NZP and then we will see who is sick and fucking tired.

Idiot pigs.

Steve

[MSTRS:Me]

I think its a cunning plan to make drivers/riders paranoid when being naughty, so they will be more restrained. In a way its like increasing the Popo force without spending a cent.

Personally, I think they are doing it all wrong, having a more visible police force is probably going to have more effect than being caught out after the fact.

Exactly. People being people, they (we) will play the odds against being caught being naughty...
Not so, when there is a marked car in sight. Just look at the crap pulled on roundabouts...then compare when there is an HP car posted there.

:to the icecream seller - Jesus wept. Is there no end to your tripe?

[Maha]

Some of those CD Riders dont need targeting, they need help!

[bogan]

sounds good to me, cept the double yellow passing one, many places with double yellows a safe pass can be made if your vehicle aint a shitbox 1.3 mirage, including the 100m vis at the end of the pass, hopefully the cops will be given the freedom to exercise discretion in such cases, though I doubt it. And I spose since the offences are more subjective than pinging someone with a radar it is a very good idea to have cameras.

[Spearfish]

I call bullshit.

It's not the polices' position to be "sick and tired" of any fucking thing. If they are truly "sick and tired" they should fuck off elsewhere and get a different job, or else they should shut the fuck up, suck their guts in, and bit the fucking bullet like the rest of us ordinary citizens have to do.

I would hazard a guess, that ordinary citizens are also "sick and tired" of the police' stupid fucking tactics and irresponsible and full /pedant mode policing that irritates people and causes them to hate the police.

Fuck them. I'm sick and fucking tired too - everyone is suck and fucking tired. Somewhere both our "sick and tired" is going to meet in the middle and go critical mass, and public scrutiny come hatred is going to turn on the NZP and then we will see who is sick and fucking tired.

Idiot pigs.

Steve

triple Rum n Raisin thanks...no extras.
Body parts go a long way on an open road, I'd be sick and tired of trying to find all the missing bits at knock off time.

[mashman]

OMG... please tell me the police aren't saying that they're going to do their jobs instead of just revenue gathering... shock horror... it's about fuckin time. Can't wait to see a cop hangin out of a tree

[Pixie]

traffic offending with an emphasis on overtaking, failing to keep left,
careless and dangerous driving and slow driving.

Bullshit lip service.

Speed alcohol and seatbelts is all they will stop you for

[Pixie]

WIsh they would pick up more on the cagers using cellphones to text while driving and swerving all over the place

But but but ,didn't they make that illegal?
AND IT'S STILL GOING ON? WHA????

[Indoo]

Speed alcohol and seatbelts is all they will stop you for

Yep must be one of those special video cameras that can also detect speed and if a driver has been drinking.

[Ixion]

I saw an excellent example of why people get pissed off with the cops this morning . And why , if the chop-cop really is telling the truth , he will start getting some respect back.

Toddling down the Southern (Auckland) motorway. Three lanes. Light traffic. I'm over in the left lane, cos there's no-one in it. Scattered vehicles in the middle lane, doing round the limit. In the right hand lane, doing a consistent 75kph, a people mover. Up ahead, end of long straighty bit, I see a cop parked up (is OK, I'm being good). He watches the people mover crawl steadily down the right hand lane toward him, at his nice steady 75kph. And past him.

Now, that's a flagrant breach of Road User Rule 2004 S 2.1

A driver may drive in the right lane in the direction of travel when driving on a multi-lane road if—
(a) the driver is turning right, or making a U-turn from the centre of the road, and is giving the prescribed signal of that driver's intention to turn right; or
(b) the driver is passing; or
(c) the left lane is unavailable to the driver; or
(d) the driver is required by any provision of this rule to drive in the right lane; or
(e) a variable lane control downward-facing arrow sign indicates that the driver must drive in the right lane; or
(f) the driver is avoiding an obstruction; or
(g) the traffic in all other lanes is congested; or
(h) the traffic in every lane is congested.

None of the above applied, and it's a behaviour that is both inconsiderate and adds to road risk (because other drivers have to change lanes to move round the slow vehicle).
So, I watched in my mirror. The cop was doing nothing much. Would the lights light up, and he stop the people mover for a wee chat ? Didn't even need a ticket, maybe, just a warning. But, nothing. Cop totally ignored it.

People get pissed of when the police adopt a draconian, no discretion attitide to minor speeding, and ignore other more serious transgressions . I've sat at a red light, watched a car behind me go straight through the red (red, not amber). And watched the cop in the car at the head of the cross street lane ignore it. Not a good look.

If the Central cops really start taking notice of non-speeding bad driving, that will be a very good thing (note, to avoid red herrings, that I'm not necessarily arguing that they should ignore speeding. Just that other things matter too) .

[Swoop]

... with an emphasis on overtaking, failing to keep left,
careless and dangerous driving and slow driving.

About fucking time.
Speed is not the issue.

Or possibly a hidden dessert on the desert rd.

A highly camouflaged Mr Whippy van??

So what is this all about?

The police get to submit footage to "Funniest Home Videos" programmes and also get lots of sponsorship from Dunkin' Donuts, as most footage will start or end outside their shops.