Bikers who ride on Onewa Rd in the mornings...

**HDTboy** · 25th May 2005, 10:33

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**vifferman** · 25th May 2005, 10:34

I've travelled on Onewa Road for nearly 6 years now, mostly by bike, and I can't say I've noticed any particular problems with people deliberately being stupid or dangerous; the few cases I've encountered seem to be incidental or innate stupidity. And if it comes to that, I've seen just as much stupid behaviour by bikers as car drivers. I've had one notable case of absolutely stupid and dangerous driving, not long after I got the VifFerraRi, and that was at lunchtime, further up Onewa. I was riding down the road in the right-hand lane, when a guy in a black SS Commode ute who was in the left lane, behind me, finally saw the lane ahead was blocked, and accelerated past me cutting into my lane at the last possible moment. If I hadn't braked hard, he would've hit my front wheel.

If he was driving safely, he would've just slowed and pulled in behind me, rather than risk my life. Wanker...

To be honest, I've found that picking my time to leave for work makes a big difference; I leave just before 8:00 AM, and don't generally need to lanesplit, overtake, or whatever (used to do it all the time, mostly because I could). So I'm not exposing myself so much to other people's stupid driving. There are also some things I almsot never do now - like overtaking on the lower part of Onewa Rd before the corner, as it is too risky coming up to the corner with no view of oncoming traffic. If two lanes of traffic approach, you're relying on being able to pull into the traffic in a hurry, which may not be possible.

Also, if the traffic is stopped, I think carefully about whether I need to lanesplit or overtake, and most times I don't bother. Today, however, I did move to the front of the traffic lights twice, (and twice I didn't lanesplit/filter)because there was a sizable gap next to the cars at the front each time. And because I haven't ridden much lately, and was in a hooning mood...

Also broke my rule about not lanesplitting on the motorway, because there was a big stinky bendy bus in the left lane. So, I went right, and so did the stinky diesel van in front of me. I went to go back in the left lane once we were past the bus, and so did he, so I lanesplit past him, only to have him switch back to the right lane a few seconds later! Dick.

**James Deuce** · 25th May 2005, 10:47

Originally Posted by placidfemme

I think it is. I've been riding behind my partner up Onewa Road and literally watched her avoid being hit (Deliberatly) by just cm's because of people like this... if it was just me... then yeah, lets ignore it, but it affects people I love and other bikers too...

You are on an exposed vehicle. If they decide to take retribution you will lose if they retaliate. Plus you will also have been witnessed damaging a car (mirror attacks) and the "serves you right" mentality will apply to 90% of the witnesses who witness you being squashed by a mental case in a car.

By all means set yourself up as a target when the stakes are really high. That's a sensible attitude.

If you must put yourself at risk in traffic, merely memorise the license plate and call the cops. If you lose your temper you may miss vital traffic clues that could get you killed. It isn't worth it.

**placidfemme** · 25th May 2005, 10:58

Originally Posted by Jim2

You are on an exposed vehicle. If they decide to take retribution you will lose if they retaliate. Plus you will also have been witnessed damaging a car (mirror attacks) and the "serves you right" mentality will apply to 90% of the witnesses who witness you being squashed by a mental case in a car.

By all means set yourself up as a target when the stakes are really high. That's a sensible attitude.

I don't really get where this part of your response has come from. I've never done a "mirror attack" as you call it. I've thought about it, but have enough common sense to know it wouldn't be worth it.

I know I'm placing myself in danger by getting on my bike everyday, and I'm not complaining about that. The difference is, you can tell when someone makes an honest mistake (Like they didn't see you), but at the same time you can also tell when people are doing things just to piss you off and be some kind of hero smart ass wanna-be.

So yeah I don't get your response/dig

**Ixion** · 25th May 2005, 11:07

Originally Posted by placidfemme

lol a mirrorectomy

I've been trying to think of a safe easy way to take down/remember the rego's without putting myself (and others) in added danger...

..

Get cheap disposable camera (about $15). Secure to suitable handlebarry place with a lanyard and a velcro dot . Dot holds it "clipped" lanyard prevents you dropping it. I can unclip and point and click one handed with gloved hands (point may be a bit wild but all you need is a shot of the rego plate - face is good too) . When your dossier is full develop it and start the retribution.

It also works well when you've managed to pull alongside a prat. Just let him see you taking his mug shot. It tends to get people quite worried 'What are you doing that for". "Evidence. It's passed to the Police". This then usually leads to an opportunity for education (I mean that seriously - I will always try to educate cagers WHY what they did upsets bikers).

**placidfemme** · 25th May 2005, 11:10

Originally Posted by Ixion

Get cheap disposable camera (about $15). Secure to suitable handlebarry place with a lanyard and a velcro dot . Dot holds it "clipped" lanyard prevents you dropping it. I can unclip and point and click one handed with gloved hands (point may be a bit wild but all you need is a shot of the rego plate - face is good too) . When your dossier is full develop it and start the retribution.

It also works well when you've managed to pull alongside a prat. Just let him see you taking his mug shot. It tends to get people quite worried 'What are you doing that for". "Evidence. It's passed to the Police". This then usually leads to an opportunity for education (I mean that seriously - I will always try to educate cagers WHY what they did upsets bikers).

Thats a fantastic idea!

I'll do that from now on when possible. lol a camera mount on the bike... that would be useful for rides and stuff too

**Mr Skid** · 25th May 2005, 11:12

The safest option is to buy a dual sport, and go where the cages can't get ya - footpaths, grass verges, school fields, parks, playgrounds.

the shortest distance from A to B is a straight line.

**James Deuce** · 25th May 2005, 11:26

Originally Posted by placidfemme

I don't really get where this part of your response has come from. I've never done a "mirror attack" as you call it. I've thought about it, but have enough common sense to know it wouldn't be worth it.

I know I'm placing myself in danger by getting on my bike everyday, and I'm not complaining about that. The difference is, you can tell when someone makes an honest mistake (Like they didn't see you), but at the same time you can also tell when people are doing things just to piss you off and be some kind of hero smart ass wanna-be.

So yeah I don't get your response/dig

Wasting even an "nth" of your brain power on a negative response, either having a whinge in your helmet, gesturing at people, or responding to the people with the limited intellect and personality to actually attempt a smart arse move is descending to their level. You putting yourself at risk by devoting anything other than the brain power required to avoid them.

I apologise if you thought I was suggesting that you yourself do the mirrorectomy, but it appeared that you supported that as a valid mode of retribution, and I was merely following your positive response to someone suggesting that was indeed a valid course of action.

As for the negative rep point, grow some balls, vitual or otherwise. I wasn't aware it was an offence to disagree with someone.

**placidfemme** · 25th May 2005, 11:44

*tries to grow some balls* <--it ain't working oh well guess I should stick my head up my ass like you then instead.

the lol to the mirrorectony was because I thought the made up mediacl word for it was funny. Maybe you should read and then re-read my previous posts and then you might see what my opinion is on that topic... as for the negative rep point... thats what it's there for... got a problem with it, tell the administrator not me and if its not an offensive to disagree with someone then you should understand all the above.

get over yourself

**James Deuce** · 25th May 2005, 11:57

Originally Posted by placidfemme

*tries to grow some balls* <--it ain't working oh well guess I should stick my head up my ass like you then instead.

the lol to the mirrorectony was because I thought the made up mediacl word for it was funny. Maybe you should read and then re-read my previous posts and then you might see what my opinion is on that topic... as for the negative rep point... thats what it's there for... got a problem with it, tell the administrator not me and if its not an offensive to disagree with someone then you should understand all the above.

get over yourself

Makes note to self: use neither irony or reason in future when posting on Internet forums.

(Tard Mode On)

**aff-man** · 25th May 2005, 11:59

Well i have had a few people deliberatly try to block my way. Pissed me off some but i have yet to reach the point of doing serious damage to thier vehicle..... come close mind you.

But another thing that i have noticed it these people are so busy trying to "block" the filtering path they don't realise that yes there is a car next to them to. I have seen a car try block me and come within meer cm of hitting the car next to it. Idiots......

And to all those friendly people out there who see/hear me and move over.. even a little.... cheers. I try and give ha a thank you wave where possible.

**placidfemme** · 25th May 2005, 12:10

Yeah I always wave or try to make a noticable nod to thank people who move over or any other nice act they do towards me when I'm on my bike, and I do likewise to others when I can.

I go by the rule that if your nice to cage driver, that one particular driver will hopefully associate your good deed with other bikers and then in turn the next time they are in the position to give way/move over e.t.c to a biker they are more likely to do it. And the same applies negaitvley, do one thing wrong towards a cage driver and they'll take it out on every bike they see... so I try my best to always be respectful on the roads.

**Lou Girardin** · 25th May 2005, 12:19

I work on the principle that if someone does something to endanger me, I will bring it to their attention (method varies). It also shows cagers that they aren't as invulnerable as they think, even us smaller folk look threatening in helmet and armoured gear.

**Coldkiwi** · 25th May 2005, 12:20

Originally Posted by Jim2

Wasting even an "nth" of your brain power on a negative response, either having a whinge in your helmet, gesturing at people, or responding to the people with the limited intellect and personality to actually attempt a smart arse move is descending to their level. You putting yourself at risk by devoting anything other than the brain power required to avoid them.
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so... if I'm shaking my head, it stops me thinking and watching where I'm going? come on Jim, we may be stupid males but we can't be THAT short of brain power.

I think you're missing the point that we have a right to excercise our disgust at other road users in a non violent way. If we don't they'll never change their behaviour will they?