Are you registering your bike?

[Brian d marge]

Certainly WONT BE registering, Im covered by insurance and WILL accept a ticket if I get one......none for 6 years

The way it seems is the biking community (or a large percentage of it) are complete pushovers, good protest people.

FUCK ACC "yeah right".......................pussies!


Said in gest ;-)

Ya beat me to it

IF this government and its laws get voted in in the next election , the little respect i had , will evaporate

Stephen

A protest IS a PROTEST ,,,, as in French

[HenryDorsetCase]

I've been thinking about this a bit. I have decided that if I end up with two road bikes over 600cc, I will register one of them, and swap the plate over. Basically I can only ride one at a time, the "risk" to ACC is the same and I shouldnt have to pay twice to receive a "service" once. Not encouraging anyone else to do it, not making a particularly political stand (though it is in fact a political stand) and its not like I couldnt afford it. I just dont think its right, so I wont participate.

[mashman]

I'll be paying my rego and will patiently wait for next years hike... it's bound to happen if so many put their rego on hold and the accident rate doesn't change... because costs never stop going up and it'll only get worse with fewer of us paying.

[Swoop]

Nope.
10 chars.

[MSTRS:Me]

3 in the shed. All on hold. They're only toys, and a reason to stay on KB, so if occasionally one needs to go get a wof in a strange, out of the way place...so be it.
I said "NO!! I'm not playing anymore." to Nick the Prick.

[Corse1]

Point 1: Insurance does not care if your ride is registered or not. The wording goes something like .....If the lack of registration contributed to the accident or damage then yes it would not be covered.
Point 2: Even if you were fully legal and had a bald tyre then insurance could still refuse as the bike was not in a roadworthy state.

I have just registered today for 12 months. Once they run out on both bikes I will alternate 6 months each and take the risk for the other six months and ride that bike a little less.
A lot of freinds have never registered their bikes and never likely to and have never been fined.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I'm going to rely on my natural charm to talk my way out of it if ever stopped by the po po. (Yeah, I know, I'm fucked: even i try to be even more charming than that Arnold on Greenacres)

[willytheekid]

And if every man jack goes out and puts their rego on hold what will happen, they will change the rules so you cant put them on hold ! Then legitimate folk who want to store a vehical get slammed in responce to your not paying up !

The op's original question was WHO will be putting reg on hold ? Well why don't you all put ya hand up , oh and ya reg number and address to make it easier for some of the cops on here to find ya if they wanted to !

It's done, the levies have been raised ! A stunt like this will only push for more legeslation against bikers ! I currently have 5 plates on hold, both cars and bikes in various stage projects, do i want to see legeslation brought about that stops me being able to do this ? Rediculous question huh, cost me around 3 hundy for each plate if i have to go back over the pits, which will happen if too many ride (and get caught with plates on hold) !
By the way i think the fine is 200 for non reged bike but the fine goes up dramatically if you ride with a plate on hold, or will you be riding to get a warrent every time ?

Good points! thanks for the input, as stated Im Just curious as to what the different veiws of the situation were.

BUT!....unfortunatly, they raised the cost AND lowered the cover....even when we WHERE paying and obeying the law.

Im also surprised no-one has mentioned dirt bikes and farm quads etc.......as (and I was surprised at this!) the majority of motorcycle claims are actually off road related-(see statisticsnz).....so why are they not paying their share? and why are cars etc (who do the majority of damage to bikers) getting off lightly as well ?
The protests didn't work, the online patitions didn't work....so the only option left to us appears to be...not paying?( I liked the six month rego idea tho!).
But as the chap above pointed out, this may effect other riders and may even lead to another price hike.....not what we want!
ROCK...."us".....HARDPLACE lol
Thanks for the great input everyone good to see arguments for both sides....still confused about what to do personally, but great to get advise and view points from everyone.

Ride safe all and keep the posts flowing.

-there panel damage..could be our life! (and yet we have to pay more??)

[Ixion]

I have several vehicles. Obviously, I can only use one at a time. I believe in paying my fair share. I will be licensing A vehicle. That's my fair share

[MSTRS:Me]

...as (and I was surprised at this!) the majority of motorcycle claims are actually off road related-(see statisticsnz).....so why are they not paying their share?

Waikato Hospital surveyed m/c types over a period in 2008 (I think). They found 80% were from off-road. We can only but guess which fund was involved at ACC.

...and why are cars etc (who do the majority of damage to bikers) getting off lightly as well ....

Please don't buy into this. Approx. 40% of our accidents are because of cars being in the wrong. That is NOT a majority.

[Brian d marge]

I have several vehicles. Obviously, I can only use one at a time. I believe in paying my fair share. I will be licensing A vehicle. That's my fair share

If you are licensing Quote " A vehicle " let that vehicle be mine ,

Kind Regards and greatest of thanks

Stephen

[HenryDorsetCase]

If you are licensing Quote " A vehicle " let that vehicle be mine ,

Kind Regards and greatest of thanks

Stephen

excellent point!

[Corse1]

Vehicles did not get away scott free.....I thought our rego for over 600cc was going up $250 but actually went up $196 to $517.25. Mate went to enquire about his 2WD Hilux deisel. From 1st June it goes up to $583. His rego runs out on 3rd July. It was an easy wind up waving my $321 12 month rego in front of his face.
He reckons now he is subsidising motorcyclists as we are just rich assholes who complained too much so Mr Smith bumped his levies up to compensate. Just another side to the problem....have to see a bit of humour sometimes to ease the pain!!

[davereid]

I'll be paying my rego and will patiently wait for next years hike... it's bound to happen if so many put their rego on hold and the accident rate doesn't change... because costs never stop going up and it'll only get worse with fewer of us paying.

As I have commented in other posts, I'm not paying, the rego on the last of my motorcycles expired in October last year, and I now have a total of 5 vehicles that are regularly used on the road un-licenced.

Will there be a hike next year ?

Of course. And the point you make about those of us who refuse to pay being a contributing factor is correct, but it is only an aside..

The model ACC use to charge for vehicle accidents is fatally flawed, ACC know this but they don't want to change it, as it they intend to use licensing as a tool to eliminate certain road user groups.

It was calculated during the BIKEOI protests that adding ACC to fuel would cost only a few cents per litre, ($0.115 to be precise) and would cover all ACCs costs.

But ACC don't like that idea, as small fuel efficient motorcycles, and those dreaded Sooters would pay very little. ACC prefer to target vehicles they don't think are safe with punitive charges in an effort to tax them off the road.

ACC know that increasing the tax on a vehicle will have 3 outcomes

1. People will abandon vehicles that are expensive to register in favour of vehicles on the ACC preferred list. (This is the intended outcome of high ACC levies)

2. People will get rid of the second or third vehicle ie reduce fleet size.
(This is an unwanted side effect. A family that halves their vehicle fleet will halve their ACC levies. But are likely to travel just as far in one vehicle. In fact as a result of "dropping people off" instead of them using their own vehicle, the may travel further, with more likely risk to ACC.)

This will result in another round of ACC price rises, as a reduction in the size of the countries vehicle fleet will result in a reduction of ACCs income. But it wont result in a reduction in ACCs liabilities.

3) Some will flout the law.


The easy solution is

a) To abandon "forward funding" of the ACC account.
b) To fully fund it, each year from fuel levies, and or a distance based road user tax.



Fuel price calcs here..
(http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/at...9&d=1256760985)

[What?]

I'm with Ixion; the days of me having four licensed vehicles are over until a fairer system is in place (read that how you will)

Im also surprised no-one has mentioned dirt bikes and farm quads etc.......as (and I was surprised at this!) the majority of motorcycle claims are actually off road related-(see statisticsnz).....so why are they not paying their share?

Please! Go to your room and do your homework!!