Nelson blitz on bikers...

[JATZ]

As a middle aged rider (without mid life crisis) I suspect that any stop by Nelson police would not be very friendly.

Tell ya what Mr Ixion..... I'll go for a ride this w/end on a couple of the roads mentioned elsewhere in this thread , and I'll report back on monday as to the attitude of the local police if I do get stopped.
No.... no.... don't try to talk me out of it, I feel it is my duty to the wider K.B. community to test this assumption that you have made

I do hope your wrong as I'm protesting the acc levy too

[Woodman]

I give up......

Some of you guys are just way too precious...... i wonder if truck drivers think that the cops are picking on them and being big meanies when they stop to weigh the trucks.

They are only pulling over a certain vehicle type not making a personal attack on you.

Get over it.

[fossil]

Ixion; yesterday you said this : However, I'm happy to take your word for the benevolence of the Nelson police. If for no other eason than that I don't live there so I can't really say what the attitude is. BTW there is no BRONZ Nelson, so jibes at BRONZ are irrelevant. If there were it would be up to them to formulate a response, if they deemed it necessary.

And today you follow it up with this: As a middle aged rider (without mid life crisis) I suspect that any stop by Nelson police would not be very friendly. And of course, refusal to admit that one does indeed have a "mid life crisis", and is therefore a baby raping crashing menace, will be construed as failing the "attitude test".
Its no wonder Bronz has only 242 members.

[scumdog]

takes 0 post to know that...also i didnt know this was a contest on who makes most pointless posts but looking at your 10,000+ i guess it its...

So I win?

Great!

(TIP: Not ALL your posts have to be pointless)

[Ixion]

I give up......

Some of you guys are just way too precious...... i wonder if truck drivers think that the cops are picking on them and being big meanies when they stop to weigh the trucks.

They are only pulling over a certain vehicle type not making a personal attack on you.

Get over it.

Hm

Supt. Knowles statement : "middle-aged man thing". "[Riders] just appear to be coming up here, if I'm brutally honest, with their midlife crisis and riding around and dying," he (Superintendent Knowles) said".

When in fact the figures shho that middle aged riders (ie, me) are not represented at all.With or without this "mid life" crisis he's dreamed up.

I reckon that's pretty personal , myself. I'm smack in the target demographic he's attacking, without any justification at all. If I were in Nelson I'd certainly be regarding it as personal.

How does you justify his attack on middleaged riders when the figures show quite the reverse? And how do you justify his smear tactic of "mid life crisis" ?

And , FFS , how many returning middle aged riders go out and assuage their midlife crisis on a MOPED ?

[Woodman]

Hm

Supt. Knowles statement : "middle-aged man thing". "[Riders] just appear to be coming up here, if I'm brutally honest, with their midlife crisis and riding around and dying," he (Superintendent Knowles) said".

When in fact the figures shho that middle aged riders (ie, me) are not represented at all.With or without this "mid life" crisis he's dreamed up.

I reckon that's pretty personal , myself. I'm smack in the target demographic he's attacking, without any justification at all. If I were in Nelson I'd certainly be regarding it as personal.

How does you justify his attack on middleaged riders when the figures show quite the reverse? And how do you justify his smear tactic of "mid life crisis" ?

And , FFS , how many returning middle aged riders go out and assuage their midlife crisis on a MOPED ?

Maybe I just don't take things to heart as much as you do.

Without me sounding too much like a wanker, but how would you prefer the Police to handle motorcycles?? considering that the chances of serious injury are high (no matter who is at fault), and a lot of motorcyclists are using public roads for recreational purposes. (including me and I accept the risks).

[Ixion]

Maybe I just don't take things to heart as much as you do.

Without me sounding too much like a wanker, but how would you prefer the Police to handle motorcycles?? considering that the chances of serious injury are high (no matter who is at fault), and a lot of motorcyclists are using public roads for recreational purposes. (including me and I accept the risks).

Like I already said :

...
"Officer Bumblebee, please stop any motorcyclists that may not be familiar with our roads and explain that , whilst we are very pleased to see them enjoying our wonderful roads, said roads can be a bit tricky, and some people have recently come to grief. And offer assistance and advice to facilitate their having a happy and safe motorcycling experience".

..

And maybe a map of good local riding roads, with warning notes about the tricky bits where people might come to grief.

Importing a load of codswallop about "mid life crises" and directing the focus onto a group that isn't actually figuring in the stats isn't helpful at all.

[Woodman]

Cool, neat, great. How do the cops know who may be unfamiliar? I know nelson can be a bit clicky, but we don't have our own regional numberplates. (yet)

[Ixion]

Cool, neat, great. How do the cops know who may be unfamiliar? I know nelson can be a bit clicky, but we don't have our own regional numberplates. (yet)

Other way round , I'd assume. Presumably local cops will recognise locals, it's not that big a place.How many local bikes can there be ? Anyone unfamiliar is probably unfamiliar. Strangers in an area are usually fairly easy to spot.

Bikes with a CoF instead of a WoF would also be a dead give away.

EDIT: If they do stop a local who knows the roads well, no big deal, if the approach is as posted. Doubt any biker could really object to that, especially if it was phrased as a question - "Hi, just wondering if you're familiar with the roads round here?".

Done right, they could have gas stations spread the word for tourists to call in and ask for a copy of said map, probably be regarded as a useful thing.

[gammaguy]

Be interested in a legal opinion on whether it boiled down to harasment. I don't believe they've got any business buttonholeing motorists going about their business.

Did nobody see this coming? The day they invented ACC cover for road accidents it became inevitable they'd decide they needed to control your behaviour.

Suckers.

if riders ride like dickheads,they deserve to be treated like them.i see stupid shit all the time,such as overtaking on blind corners,not wanting to be left behind on group overtaking moves etc.

if we tidy our act up,chances are we will be left alone.

Sadly the statistics suggest that aint gonna happen.

while riders balls are bigger than their brains,it will continue.

[Woodman]

Other way round , I'd assume. Presumably local cops will recognise locals, it's not that big a place.How many local bikes can there be ? Anyone unfamiliar is probably unfamiliar. Strangers in an area are usually fairly easy to spot.

Bikes with a CoF instead of a WoF would also be a dead give away.

EDIT: If they do stop a local who knows the roads well, no big deal, if the approach is as posted. Doubt any biker could really object to that, especially if it was phrased as a question - "Hi, just wondering if you're familiar with the roads round here?".

Done right, they could have gas stations spread the word for tourists to call in and ask for a copy of said map, probably be regarded as a useful thing.

Thanks for that, You pretty much confirmed to me why they are doing it the way they are doing it. And like you said the locals will find it to be no big deal anyway so no probs.

[Roadsafe Nelson]

And maybe a map of good local riding roads, with warning notes about the tricky bits where people might come to grief.

We already have these here too!!!!!!! I hand them out to all my trainees & they are available all around the place

pics to come shortly

Honestly some of you lot... you seem to have NO IDEA of what actually IS happening round here.. in terms of all the GOOD things that are & have been happening for a while!!!!

maybe some of you need to TALK less & observe more

[Roadsafe Nelson]

Other way round , I'd assume. Presumably local cops will recognise locals, it's not that big a place.How many local bikes can there be ? Anyone unfamiliar is probably unfamiliar. Strangers in an area are usually fairly easy to spot.

Done right, they could have gas stations spread the word for tourists to call in and ask for a copy of said map, probably be regarded as a useful thing

For someone who is supposed to know a lot.. you sure don't actually know a lot Ixion..

Nelson has the second BIGGEST Ulysses club in the country behind AK !!!!!

[Ixion]

Thanks for that, You pretty much confirmed to me why they are doing it the way they are doing it. And like you said the locals will find it to be no big deal anyway so no probs.

Well, that depends. Maybe they are doing it that way but if so they are seriously at variance with their own boss, whose quoted approach sems much more along the lones of "pull them over and compliance them with a fine tooth comb,and if they happen to be.middleaged read them the riot act about how evil they and their mid life crisis are"

Not seeing much of friendly or help in.his approach

Me, if i were a local i'd reckon that a prob, and i would take it personally

[98tls]

We already have these here too!!!!!!! I hand them out to all my trainees & they are available all around the place

pics to come shortly

Honestly some of you lot... you seem to have NO IDEA of what actually IS happening round here.. in terms of all the GOOD things that are & have been happening for a while!!!!

maybe some of you need to TALK less & observe more

What xactly is the "what is actually happening round here" thing?40 odd bikes and almost as many years riding later ive never understood wtf these threads (thankfully theres not been 40 years of the interweb) are about,not having a crack at you at all personally.