Nelson blitz on bikers...

**98tls** · 22nd June 2010, 23:11

Originally Posted by Roadsafe Nelson

For someone who is supposed to know a lot.. you sure don't actually know a lot Ixion..

Nelson has the second BIGGEST Ulysses club in the country behind AK !!!!!

Whats that got to do with anything motorcycling,nationwide they have probably put more motorcyclists off joining than have ever joined fwiw.

**Ixion** · 22nd June 2010, 23:13

Originally Posted by Roadsafe Nelson

For someone who is supposed to know a lot.. you sure don't actually know a lot Ixion..

Nelson has the second BIGGEST Ulysses club in the country behind AK !!!!!

Thats nice. Never claimed to know much about ulysses, never had much to do with them. They're a bit old for me . Maybe one day.

**Woodman** · 22nd June 2010, 23:18

Originally Posted by Ixion

Well, that depends. Maybe they are doing it that way but if so they are seriously at variance with their own boss, whose quoted approach sems much more along the lones of "pull them over and compliance them with a fine tooth comb,and if they happen to be.middleaged read them the riot act about how evil they and their mid life crisis are"

Not seeing much of friendly or help in.his approach

Me, if i were a local i'd reckon that a prob, and i would take it personally

Now your just making quotes up and then using the quote to argue against your own made up quote.

This has got seriously silly

**Roadsafe Nelson** · 22nd June 2010, 23:20

right.. my computer is playing games with me & taking forever to try & download pics from my camera.. so will try & sort pics out tomorrow

The maps clearly show hotspots around the region, pinpointing high risk areas & listing the potential dangers in each of those areas.

FYI.. Roadsafe have been running a Mentoring Programme through the Ulysses Club in Hamilton in conjunction with Ulysses National & ACC for the past 4 years now!!! This programme is currently being taken further, to include several other North Island towns, & has also recently been confirmed by Ulysses head office again with ACC.. to launch the programme in NELSON!!!

We are in the process of collecting application forms from people who feel they may be a suitable Mentor for our local riders.. we will hand select the candidates we feel will be suitable & put them through a special training programme!!!! The Mentors will follow certain procedures & will have to keep a log book of their mentees. They will also undergo yearly training with Roadsafe, to keep upskilled.

There are a lot of people down here who CARE about our riders.. & we are doing a hell of a lot of work to try & improve the situation!!

So.. maybe it's time to get off your soapbox for a while & go have that cup of tea.

**98tls** · 22nd June 2010, 23:23

Originally Posted by Ixion

Thats nice. Never claimed to know much about ulysses, never had much to do with them. They're a bit old for me . Maybe one day.

Dont bother fella,im old and gave it a go,only for one ride though.Before setting off on a ride with em i had to rush home grab a pen/paper and saddlebags to write down then store the rules and regs.Highlight of the day was being so bored sitting behind a bloke on a Beemer i thought id rebel and pass only to find i set of his pacemaker resulting in him short circuiting resulting in him clenching his fists and getting well outta hand,bit dangerous i thought.

**Ixion** · 22nd June 2010, 23:32

I'm sure you are doong admirable work, and respect for it.

However your local chief of pplice does seem to be letting the side down with his focis pm middle aged riders and mid life crises.

So long as his attitudes are confined to Nelson, its not a problem for me.

But , police being what they are, said attitude is likely tp be copied by other forces. Like, where i am. And then it does become a problem forme.

I see , BTW, that the local Ulysses president is in the paper condemning the police attitude.

**98tls** · 22nd June 2010, 23:40

Originally Posted by Roadsafe Nelson

right.. my computer is playing games with me & taking forever to try & download pics from my camera.. so will try & sort pics out tomorrow

The maps clearly show hotspots around the region, pinpointing high risk areas & listing the potential dangers in each of those areas.

FYI.. Roadsafe have been running a Mentoring Programme through the Ulysses Club in Hamilton in conjunction with Ulysses National & ACC for the past 4 years now!!! This programme is currently being taken further, to include several other North Island towns, & has also recently been confirmed by Ulysses head office again with ACC.. to launch the programme in NELSON!!!

We are in the process of collecting application forms from people who feel they may be a suitable Mentor for our local riders.. we will hand select the candidates we feel will be suitable & put them through a special training programme!!!! The Mentors will follow certain procedures & will have to keep a log book of their mentees. They will also undergo yearly training with Roadsafe, to keep upskilled.

There are a lot of people down here who CARE about our riders.. & we are doing a hell of a lot of work to try & improve the situation!!

So.. maybe it's time to get off your soapbox for a while & go have that cup of tea.

No offence fella but speaking of soapboxes,ive no doubt you and your kind mean well but jesus when did motorcycling get so bloody precious?No doubt i will get flamed for this but couldnt give a rats thats the way of it in this precious age i guess.Motorcyclings an adventure (was) but all this mentees/mentors/upskill/care abouit our riders blah blah blah,1/2 the fuckers doing this stuff have the ability and real world skills of a brick and no doubt do more harm than good imho.

**Ixion** · 22nd June 2010, 23:46

Originally Posted by 98tls

Dont bother fella,im old and gave it a go,only for one ride though.Before setting off on a ride with em i had to rush home grab a pen/paper and saddlebags to write down then store the rules and regs.Highlight of the day was being so bored sitting behind a bloke on a Beemer i thought id rebel and pass only to find i set of his pacemaker resulting in him short circuiting resulting in him clenching his fists and getting well outta hand,bit dangerous i thought.

Yes, i dont think you are supppsed to do that.

Many Ulyssians are very nice people, just a bit obsessed with grand childre;n and rules. They seem to have a rather strange riding style, there's probably a rule about it, whicj just doesnt work for me.

**Nutter34** · 22nd June 2010, 23:54

Originally Posted by 98tls

No offence fella.

Lol Jen, I never knew you were a bloke?

There's a part of me that would consider teaching and training new people but the hooligan part keeps it subdued... Maybe when I get to your age, lol...

**98tls** · 23rd June 2010, 00:02

Originally Posted by Nutter34

Lol Jen, I never knew you were a bloke?

Just shows ya eh,never judge a book by its cover.

**98tls** · 23rd June 2010, 00:13

Originally Posted by Ixion

Yes, i dont think you are supppsed to do that.

Many Ulyssians are very nice people, just a bit obsessed with grand childre;n and rules. They seem to have a rather strange riding style, there's probably a rule about it, whicj just doesnt work for me.

Its that whole "group" thing methinks.The idea of being instructed by a bunch of ex hell raisers that either had no natural ability and kept falling off for no good reason or did have ability but couldnt sober up for more than 12 hours at a time so simply went out and bought cruisers and hooked up with likemindeds just doesnt work for me,worse still they impart this wisdom to those they perceive as lesser mortals.

**davereid** · 23rd June 2010, 08:26

Originally Posted by Roadsafe Nelson

There are a lot of people down here who CARE about our riders.. & we are doing a hell of a lot of work to try & improve the situation!!

Maybe its just me... but every time someone has claimed they "care" for me, they have always wanted to follow that up with advice. Then after the advice, some more rules. And then actual interference with the way I do things. Normally they find a way to stop me doing something I like, and/or take money off me. Still, its for my own good.

**duckonin** · 23rd June 2010, 09:07

Originally Posted by gammaguy

i see stupid shit all the time,such as overtaking on blind corners..

That would include a lot of car drivers also would it not ?

**warewolf** · 23rd June 2010, 09:13

Originally Posted by 98tls

The idea of being instructed by a bunch of ex hell raisers

Note that that is NOT what RoadSafe are doing. They are bringing external training & skills IN to the Ulysses. (and it is being offered, not enforced)

MY problem with the police in Nelson is that they regularly spout off emotive specious crap in the papers which is at odds with the data. Then they come out with cockameeny schemes like this blitz which are purely about being seen to be doing something, rather than doing something, and just piss off people who are already trying to do the right thing. They are also pushing the boundaries of civil liberties while they are at it.

I see way too many incidences of cops ignoring utterly blatant dangerous driving right under their noses that I just can't believe any of them give the slightest shit about road safety.

And is it just me who's noticed the glaring omission in their justification? They've only mentioned fatalities. Including all the injury crashes, who was at fault??