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    Top 10 police traffic strategies

    Isn't new technology scary?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/bl...c-technologies

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    I wonder how good the laser-guided GPS missile is at hitting motorcycles - and what would be the cosequences of a direct hit?

    Or what would be the consequences of a miss ...
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    haha, lol'd at the scarab and the eureka one. I don't quite understand how tech that hasn't even been developed can be considered new though?
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    this one scares me...

    "8. Automatic licence plate recognition
    The ALPR system uses several cameras mounted on top of a police car to scan each number plate which comes in front of it automatically. Those numbers are almost instantly checked against a database to see whether the car is stolen, or if the owner is wanted. It looks forwards, sideways - for parking lots etc."

    They're testing in OZ at the mo, & I can see our P.I.G.s taking it on as this could sky rocket their profits with no effort at all. What they don't mention here is its actually being used to check WOF's & vehicle licences, theft & wanted's are just side effects of the device as far as their concerned.
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    I don't have a problem with the ALPR system as such, it is a very effective solution to catching lawbreakers. The problem I have is with the laws themselves, all this double yellow BS, ACC levies, stupid speed limits etc.

    Personally I wait for the day of the AI, prolly number 1million on the list though, but AI's will fix all the corrupt and useless/ineffective laws. Maybe I read too much Neal Ascher
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    That Scarab thing looks just like a Spyder. Good luck to it if it's locked onto me, following me down lane 1A.

    And good luck to the Eureka thing trying to scramble the circuits on some of my vehicles. Circuits? What circuits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    this one scares me...

    "8. Automatic licence plate recognition
    The ALPR system uses several cameras mounted on top of a police car to scan each number plate which comes in front of it automatically.
    Why does it scare you..???

    I'm sure you would be happy having your stolen bike or car recovered quick smart and the thieving cunts nicked with such a system.

    Then you would probably think it was the best thing since sliced bread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    And good luck to the Eureka thing trying to scramble the circuits on some of my vehicles. Circuits? What circuits.
    But then Ixion, the world doesn't actually revolve around you.

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    It will when I'm the only one with unscrambled circuits!

    More intelligent people might make the logical deduction - if some vehicles can be (or are by design) proof against scrambling, you may be sure that the folk likely to do runners (and getaway cars etc) will ensure that have scramble proof machines., So, the only people that the idea will work on are those who it doesn't need to work on, the ones who won't run.

    See, that's what we call "logic". You should try it some time, it's not really that hard. Best way to start is to remove nose from official backside and think an independent thought. Just one to start with, best not get carried away. Keep practicing and eventually you'll find you can actually think for yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
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    Good stuff, these appear much better alternatives than harsher penalties or calling off pursuits because they're too dangerous.
    I'd like to see more. And one would hope that the technology will be well researched and included in any review of pursuit policies.

    The great thing about these technologies - is that they're used by other countries, although some are conceptual - we will be able to put into use prior knowledge for best practises to implement, just like the Alcohol Interlocking Devices.

    Comments crack me up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    It will when I'm the only one with unscrambled circuits!

    More intelligent people might make the logical deduction - if some vehicles can be (or are by design) proof against scrambling, you may be sure that the folk likely to do runners (and getaway cars etc) will ensure that have scramble proof machines., So, the only people that the idea will work on are those who it doesn't need to work on, the ones who won't run.

    See, that's what we call "logic". You should try it some time, it's not really that hard. Best way to start is to remove nose from official backside and think an independent thought. Just one to start with, best not get carried away. Keep practicing and eventually you'll find you can actually think for yourself.
    So what's your alternative? Education - yes, harsher penalties (enforcement of current laws would be enough), continue as is, or allow offenders to do runners - with clear consequences? Or would you have something further to contribute? (serious question..)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    It will when I'm the only one with unscrambled circuits!

    More intelligent people might make the logical deduction - if some vehicles can be (or are by design) proof against scrambling, you may be sure that the folk likely to do runners (and getaway cars etc) will ensure that have scramble proof machines., So, the only people that the idea will work on are those who it doesn't need to work on, the ones who won't run.

    See, that's what we call "logic". You should try it some time, it's not really that hard. Best way to start is to remove nose from official backside and think an independent thought. Just one to start with, best not get carried away. Keep practicing and eventually you'll find you can actually think for yourself.
    well the common technique to prevent EMF interference is a grounded ferrous material around the electronic bits, all cars have this anyway, so I reckon it'd be well hard to stop an EMP. then again, a 200m range you'd want it to be pretty directional so as not to fry everyones cellphones/laptops etc, I reckon such an EMP device while do-able isn't practical for law enforcement, maybe military though.
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    I quite like that starchase GPS thingy and The rumbler. Pretty impressive if i must say so myself..
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    I reckon such an EMP device while do-able isn't practical for law enforcement, maybe military though.
    There has been some military research into EMP devices to bring down aircraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.G.W View Post
    So what's your alternative? Education - yes, harsher penalties (enforcement of current laws would be enough), continue as is, or allow offenders to do runners - with clear consequences? Or would you have something further to contribute? (serious question..)
    I think you probably can't stop it. The professional get away car driver isn't going to stop no matter what . But, is the focus on runners obscuring the real problem ? The only reason the runner comes to the attention of the cops in the first place is that they are doing stupid shit. You can drive round for ages breaking all sorts of rules if you do so discretely, and no one will really care. Mostly polic e chase people ebcause they were behaving dangerously or stupidly before being chased.

    Now, if the cops see them doing stupid shit, then, given that there aren't that many cops, and they can't be everywhere at once, you may be sure that they've done stupid shit a LOT before being spotted.

    And the papers are full, every weeek , of reports of people dying because someone did stupid shit without being spotted and pursued. They just went out, did something stupid, no cops around, but they died anyway. The ones who die being pursued (or the bystanders collected) are a tiny percentage of the total stupid-shit toll.

    So , really, is not the question "How do you stop people doing stupid shit" ?

    Which you won't do with electronic gizmos. Because to use the gizmo the cop has to spot them. And , as per above, they'll have done an awful lot of stupid-shit (on average) before being spotted. If it's a race between stupid-shit-doer being killed , and stupid-shit-doer being spotted by cops, the odds will always be on being killed first.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
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