new sports bikes.....bit wank

[John]

read what i said

or what i meant it to be interpreted as would go somwhat like

new sports bikes have ridicoulous amounts of power an are anorexic at best

i honestly dont think its going to make a difference if one is ]CLAIMED CLAIMED to have a DRY weight a few kilos more or a [SIZE=5]]CLAIMED few extra horses that i would put a 50 down that you will probably never see

Happens to cars to - I think most realise what your saying but if the upper echelon (SP?) riders who give us nice second hand bikes, and they have their justified reason for doing so either being more speed better looks whatever - I'm sure you will find out one day

(heres a old test with cars)
http://www.dsv.su.se/~mad/power.html

[Sensei]

[QUOTE=MSTRS]I subscribe to the principle that if your bike is capable of better than you can do, then you will never be disappointed.[/QUOTE


Agree with MSTRS & Winja once you have riden bikes that Have HP you don't go backwards . Big HP bikes now adays Handle & are very lght to bikes of 10y's back so you know its going to do the Job . As said before every one buys what they like & what suits their skill . Yea 1 kg here & 2HP there is not going to sell a bike over the other I believe , Its how it makes you feel when you ride it

[StoneChucker]

Is this supposed to make people who buy the latest and greatest feel stupid or embarrassed? What happened to people buying what appealed to them?

I didn't buy my bike to have the latest, fastest, best and to be the best rider. I bought it because I wanted a litre bike, I wanted a new bike and im MY opinion the bike I chose looked the best. I never thought I'd be able to use all of it, and didn't think an extra few HP would make me a better rider.

Honestly, when I saw the bike I knew INSTANTLY that I had to have it. Maybe it came down to something as simple as looks? Good marketing? Maybe. The bike I wanted? Definitely.

And no I don't plan to upgrade to the 05 model, the 06 and then the 07. I plan to keep this for quite some time, till I can sit at the top of the takas and lament on how in my day 180HP was alot, and how crazy you youngsters are to ride 2015 Gsxr1000's with 572 HP, and 125kg bikes

Bikes are a personal choice, just like any other posession. Implying that one's choice is superficial is only going to annoy people.

[justsomeguy]

Is this supposed to make people who buy the latest and greatest feel stupid or embarrassed? What happened to people buying what appealed to them?

I didn't buy my bike to have the latest, fastest, best and to be the best rider. I bought it because I wanted a litre bike, I wanted a new bike and im MY opinion the bike I chose looked the best. I never thought I'd be able to use all of it, and didn't think an extra few HP would make me a better rider.

Honestly, when I saw the bike I knew INSTANTLY that I had to have it. Maybe it came down to something as simple as looks? Good marketing? Maybe. The bike I wanted? Definitely.

And no I don't plan to upgrade to the 05 model, the 06 and then the 07. I plan to keep this for quite some time, till I can sit at the top of the takas and lament on how in my day 180HP was alot, and how crazy you youngsters are to ride 2015 Gsxr1000's with 572 HP, and 125kg bikes

Bikes are a personal choice, just like any other posession. Implying that one's choice is superficial is only going to annoy people.

Relax stoney - he's talking to the people who buy with their head and not their heart - and oh yeah poor people.

Those who simply can't afford the latest and greatest need to be able to offer a rational explanation apart from the fact that they are skint.

[FROSTY:Me]

SC I think ya missed the point dude. The point was about searching for the last 2% of hp -Your buying decision had very little to do with clamed or real HP figures
If I was looking at a new 600 it would be for track use so I'd be looking at race results as well as pure HP figures.

[Motu]

Agree with MSTRS & Winja once you have riden bikes that Have HP you don't go backwards .

I do,often - I like bikes,it doesn't matter to me how much power they have or how fast they go,I get a buzz out of some really slow guttless bikes.I just sold a 750 to buy a 230 - expand your experiance,don't just stay at one narrow edge of performance.

[StoneChucker]

SC I think ya missed the point dude. The point was about searching for the last 2% of hp -Your buying decision had very little to do with clamed or real HP figures
If I was looking at a new 600 it would be for track use so I'd be looking at race results as well as pure HP figures.

You want the truth? You want the TRUTH??? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

I was merely clarifying myself as someone who doesn't base everything on HP, dude

I am SO going to LET you kick my arse at Taupo in Dec, but I could easily beat you, you know. I got more HP

[SPman]

Its how it makes you feel when you ride it

Thats basically it in a nutshell! DT230..Z1000...GSXR....BMW...whatever.


Something like this is starting to look good again.......GT1000

[mikey]

I got my GSX-R600 because it was the best.... but i want to race mine...

you bought it or the finance company/./..../../.../

[Eurodave]

You dont NEED 100 hp [or more] at the rear wheel to have fun on a bike,period!!!

Anyone that says to me that they can FULLY exploit that sort of power on 2 tiny little rubber contact patches ON A PUBLIC ROAD should be locked up for fear of killing themselves or others in the process

Admittedly horsepower is addictive...... but theres a point where the racetrack becomes the only viable way of unleashing enormous gobs of it & surviving to talk about it another day

[Ixion]

I've never needed to go *fast* to have fun on a bike. A real biker can have a fun time on a 50cc. Or a 1000cc.

One thing about HP though, is it's not necessarily the peak hp that people buy power bikes for, it's the mid range hp.

It's very nice being able to just twist the throttle and take off, without having to worry about changing gear etc. That to me is much more important than some top end hp figure. More and more, the big Vtwins with their gruntly bottom and mid end performance seem to make far more sense to me than the tuned to the limit sports bikes.

[avgas]

Im finding alot of the new bike (and cars for that matter), have changed to not suit my tastes. But you see that is the glory of it all. Cos the people who buy the latest thing, never put much thought into buying it anyhow.
As for the HP thing.....take a closer look at those spec sheets, in most cases the specs are get worse (98 R1 to 04 R1 is my favourite) or not changing at all.
Thankfully alot of bike companies are changing their ways - Look at Triumph, Kawasaki,Suzuki - realeasing a range of Cafe' Racers/Naked bike that dont have the biggest and best motors in the world.
Also one of the sexiest Dukes' in the world, the MH900 - is based purely off the old 900 Pantah, Why? Cos thats what people who think about bike want.
However, you cant simply stop the boat to make such specialized motor bike all the time, so you make a limited run.
I have a secret love affiar with Streetfighters (youll know when i come out of the closet about this....itll be on one wheel). Not becasue the are brutal looking machines, but because it reflects what you want in a bike - if you think the new GSXR headlight looks like a glow in the dark dildo.....in the rubbish it goes.
So its up to you what you ride, but if your gone all night, smell like kerosene, smilling like you have won lotto and turn up to work late........then you know she's a perfect match for you

[Sensei]

It's very nice being able to just twist the throttle and take off, without having to worry about changing gear etc. That to me is much more important than some top end hp figure. More and more, the big Vtwins with their gruntly bottom and mid end performance seem to make far more sense to me than the tuned to the limit sports bikes.

Dude where ya been my GSXR1000 puts out the same Torque as a 999 Ducati
& a V-Rod. Twins have had their days as been the only thing with Torque . Having owned 2 Ducati's & a Triumph which both have great torque they still don't come close to The GSXR . See if you can take a Big Twin down to 20k in top & pull cleanly away from there .

[Hitcher]

Mikey for President!

[justsomeguy]

Mikey for President!

So its up to you what you ride, but if your gone all night, smell like kerosene, smilling like you have won lotto and turn up to work late........then you know she's a perfect match for you

.... And Avgas for the President's speech writer.