new sports bikes.....bit wank

[2_SL0]

I picked mine cus its green, and has pretty wheels.

[Biff]

99.9% of the figures dished out by bike companies are total bollox anyway. Dry weights are the areas in which manufacturers BS us the most. I’ve read of several independent studies over the years where professionals have attempted to weigh brand new bikes and achieve the same weights as the manufacturers claim. They can't.

Dry weights mean exactly that, no oil, fuel, brake fluid, etc etc, and in not test could these experts get the bikes in question to weigh as little as the manufacturers official claimed dry weights. Besides, we can’t ride ‘dry’ bikes anyway. No fuel, no brakes, no oil! And different bikes have different sized fuel tanks, so naturally the weight of their fully loaded fuel tanks will also differ.

Then there's the bhp figures. Well Mr Manufacturer, we'll have to take your word for these figures I guess, as I know of no-one that can access the bikes crank and measure the bhp. Again, useless and misleading information.

In fact, during one of the investigations (by T.W.O mag I think) an insider from Yamaha claimed that they made up the weight and bhp figures for the R1, as the figures that they had measured during their own tests made the bike look uncompetitive. Even Yamaha refused to demonstrate how they achieved these ‘official; measurements.

Now we all know the R1 isn’t uncompetitive, but as long as we consumers keep looking towards these misleading figures, and using them as a basis when deciding what bike to buy, then the manufacturers will keep lying to us.

[Lou Girardin]

Somethings never change. Just like Jag "fettling" the 1st E type so that it would crack 150 mph

[Ixion]

Somethings never change. Just like Jag "fettling" the 1st E type so that it would crack 150 mph

And didn't every young boy of the day know that figure by heart. And recited the gospel truth that "E types do 150 mph". Which must have been very annoying for all the people who bought E types and only manged around 120mph

[Biff]

And didn't every young boy of the day know that figure by heart. And recited the gospel truth that "E types do 150 mph". Which must have been very annoying for all the people who bought E types and only manged around 120mph

Didn't we just - I even asked for santa to bring me a toy one, and got one. Ya see it works!!

Bloody marketeers. String the lot of them up by their sensitive bits and make them watch Shortland Street for a month I say.

[Motu]

Yeah,we were really sucked in in those days eh? Not smart like the young fullas of today....That big 150mph speedo on the Vincent was heady stuff....absolute proof of it's capabilities.

The Commando,the Trident,the CB750...they all at various times were the fastest over the 1/4 mile and top speed.....but never both at once because it was all gearing,the bike with the fastest 1/4 mile time was geared down,the best top end bike was geared up....but the absolute proof was the spec sheet,it was there in black and white,for this year atleast.

[Ixion]

Yeah,we were really sucked in in those days eh? Not smart like the young fullas of today....That big 150mph speedo on the Vincent was heady stuff....absolute proof of it's capabilities.
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Yeah, the easiest tuneup I ever did was when I tuned my 3TA to do 120mph. Dead easy, just fitted a BSA 120mph Smiths speedo. Must be able to do 120 mph, look, that's what the speedo goes up to.

[Bonez]

I do,often - I like bikes,it doesn't matter to me how much power they have or how fast they go,I get a buzz out of some really slow guttless bikes.I just sold a 750 to buy a 230 - expand your experiance,don't just stay at one narrow edge of performance.

Agreed Motu. HP is not what motocycling is ALL about. Thank gooddess.......

[Roadrash]

To be honest, i really don't see the point i don't know anyone who could REALLY notice the difference in handling etc between this year and last years and at the end of the day if you did ride them like they are ment to be ridden you could kiss your licence goodbye before the things run in, and most people you see on them ride 160km in a straight line then go around a corner at 30km because they're to much for them. think i'll get me a big loud '98 TL1000R and save myself ten grand