Transvestite bikers

[crashe]

Shiiiiiit. I know this sounds condescending, but I can't help feeling sorry for guys/gals that go to such an extreme. What a total head fuck life must be to want to have your bits chopped off as you feel so strongly about wanting to be seen to be a woman. And vise versa. If that's possible. Not the dressing up bit, but having reconstructive surgery to form a penis.

There's somebody on here that's an expert on these things. She posted a link to a transvestite site recently and is an active member (so to speak), of some sorts.

Any advice please?

Biff those that have gone throu the sex change are called "transgender" .They are born in the wrong body. Example is Georgina Beyer. She was born in in a boys body but should have been born a woman.
Transgendered folk go throu hell most of their lives until they get the change done. They know in themselves who they are, but they have to prove it to so many people - Dr's etc before they can have the op. The Operation itself is very costly. There are more men becoming women than there are women becoming men. "Transsexual's" have yet to go throu the operation, but on the hormone replacement therapy meds etc.

Transvestite's are people who like to dress up in women's clothes, and are usually hetrosexual men. They are sometimes also called a "cross-dresser" example the NZ police officer who was caught nicking women's clothes in the Manawatu area a couple of years ago. He was straight but loved the feel of satin on his body.

Jazbug Wow be proud of who 'Peter' was/is, as Peter knew who he really was. Back then there were no operations.

There are still many who are living like "Peter" today and no one would ever know. Not until they die when it is discovered. Example a video called "The Ballad of Jo".

I do believe that the programme should be shown on TV1 or other main free to air TV channel's so that everyone in NZ got the chance to see it.
It is an excellent programme.

[Paul in NZ]

By the way Paul(ine), how did the op go?

It would need more than one OP to make me into a passable woman mate..

I don't take offence at that of course, but I can't but wonder if you are being a little defensive on the subject Zadok old son.. After all, making scale model motorcycles could be viewed by some as being equally odd. (Not me, I'm all for it) It all sort of depends on where you stand..

FWIW. Vicki and I have had several gay neighbours over the years and found them (usually) to be bloody good people to have living next door. We have been invited to several AMAZING parties including (when we lived in ChCh to the Gay Oscars.. I have to say, they were bloody brilliant nights out.

The only time I was flumoxed was when I was standing at the 'mens' urinal and this drop dead gorgeous supermodel wearing heel and not a lot else at all stepped up beside me and untucked herself for a little wee... Fark the look on my face must have been hilarious! I mean she was bloody STUNNING - real playboy material, a REAL woman and she still stood up to wee... I tell you! I just didn't know what to do or where to look and it quite put me off my business but we both cracked up and had a frigging good laugh about it! Shit it was funny (but you had to be there)

Vicki and I had a bloody good time that night and others.

I also used to service the old Toll rooms. There were a lot of trans gender people working there and as a young oily biker type they used to give me heaps! When I got married we bought a Triumph Spitfire sportscar. One 'notable' lady asked "(in a high camp voice) OOOHH! Who owns that darling little sports car, I fancy a ride on that" One of the other wags cautioned her, "Oh you better be careful he's a rough bikie type, he'll pull your arms off if you get too cheeky." (which since they were both taller and tougher than me was a bloody laugh).... (by now the whole toll room was looking and I was getting a bit embarassed) "Oh good she says.... I like em rough".... aaarrgghhh.... The whole place erupted in laughter!

My professional reputation was shot but I always got on well with everyone after that!

I'm not saying ALL these people are great folks, I'm sure there are a lot of nasty ones (just like hetro sexual people) but you really should not judge people by their orientation. Personally, I reckon that the life they choose is hard enough as it is and it's not something you would do for a laugh. You have to be committed!

Just my thoughts anyway!

Cheers

[placidfemme]

A little bit off topic... but I'd like to say I'm very surprised by everyones general "accepting" attitude towards the GLBT (Gay,Lesbian,Bisexual and Transgender) community. I suppose its a stereotype but I thought in general being bikers and mostly male you'd all be anti GLBT people and the such.

I'm glad you've all (mostly) proved me wrong. It's good to see

[White trash]

Think they all live in Wellington, though....

Maybe they do, but if that's the case, the Chch and Auckland brigade have had their arses kicked by a bunch of skirt wearing pooftas.

Well done boys, keep it up.

[Paul in NZ]

A little bit off topic... but I'd like to say I'm very surprised by everyones general "accepting" attitude towards the GLBT (Gay,Lesbian,Bisexual and Transgender) community. I suppose its a stereotype but I thought in general being bikers and mostly male you'd all be anti GLBT people and the such.

I'm glad you've all (mostly) proved me wrong. It's good to see

Nah! I just hate joy suckers and arseholes. Good people is good people and there are too damn few of them out there as it is...

Cheers

ps - It is funny though. A lot of GLBT folks see unfashionable, poor, old fat, white middle aged men like me and just expect me to be a bigot and a hater... I wonder how many times that expectation envokes a negative reaction? Just a thought!

[Ixion]

A little bit off topic... but I'd like to say I'm very surprised by everyones general "accepting" attitude towards the GLBT (Gay,Lesbian,Bisexual and Transgender) community. I suppose its a stereotype but I thought in general being bikers and mostly male you'd all be anti GLBT people and the such.

I'm glad you've all (mostly) proved me wrong. It's good to see

Bikers are used to being discriminated against. And since they also see that the discrimination stops when they take off the helmet and leathers, they realise how stupid such attitiudes are.

Also most bikers will be rather non-conformist.After all, they're all doing something that "society" disapproves of. So they will judge situations and people on their merits rather than a society-conditioned response.

[placidfemme]

Bikers are used to being discriminated against. And since they also see that the discrimination stops when they take off the helmet and leathers, they realise how stupid such attitiudes are.

Also most bikers will be rather non-conformist.After all, they're all doing something that "society" disapproves of. So they will judge situations and people on their merits rather than a society-conditioned response.

I understand this now and appreciate this. Sadly even being a biker myself didn't stop me from stereotyping other bikers... regarding opions towards GLBT people...

It's good to know

[Paul in NZ]

Also most bikers will be rather non-conformist.After all, they're all doing something that "society" disapproves of.

So... Since Moto Guzzi is such a tiny brand and pretty well does everything differently to everyone else in the biking world that would make someone that owns one a bit of a non conformist biker? And since bikers are non conformists... And remembering that I don't conform to the biker 'norm' which is already non conformist, does this make me a non conforming non conformist? If so.. Have I in deed come full circle and started to conform again?

Hells teeth this is complicated..

Paul N

[Biff]

A little bit off topic... but I'd like to say I'm very surprised by everyones general "accepting" attitude towards the GLBT (Gay,Lesbian,Bisexual and Transgender) community.

Yup most of us are ok about the GLBT brigade (new term for me). Unfortunately there are one or two narrow minded people here that aren't particularly accepting. Which is a shame.

I know of one 'L' here, a recent convert to KB who admitted it herself in a post recently. Good to know that this person is comfortable enough to talk about their partner openly here without fear of getting bombarded with smutty remarks. Although I for one reserve the right to perv and be smutty in general about all things female/pornographic/gay or straight. And I enjoy talking about my penis. Because nobody else here does. And I have a reputation to uphold after all.

But I do have a problem with AH's and FW's.

Biff those that have gone throu the sex change are called "transgender" .

Yup - I know that. Thanks anyway. The question was really, are there females out there that have operations to "build a penis"? I think the operation is reffered to as a strapadicktome, or similar. Seriously though, are there?

[Brains]

What a cool thread, for those of you in Hamilton, Mr Gay Waikato is happening this weekend, these guys and girls know how to party. Might see some of you there, the girlfriend is off at a dance comp this weekend, so I might go with her dance partners partner.

[Ixion]

So... Since Moto Guzzi is such a tiny brand and pretty well does everything differently to everyone else in the biking world that would make someone that owns one a bit of a non conformist biker? And since bikers are non conformists... And remembering that I don't conform to the biker 'norm' which is already non conformist, does this make me a non conforming non conformist? If so.. Have I in deed come full circle and started to conform again?

Hells teeth this is complicated..

Paul N

Nah, you're just strange.

[XTC]

What a cool thread, for those of you in Hamilton, Mr Gay Waikato is happening this weekend, these guys and girls know how to party. Might see some of you there, the girlfriend is off at a dance comp this weekend, so I might go with her dance partners partner.

Sooo you're going to partner her dance partners partner to the party? say it fast three times.

[placidfemme]

I know of one 'L' here, a recent convert to KB who admitted it herself in a post recently. Good to know that this person is comfortable enough to talk about their partner openly here without fear of getting bombarded with smutty remarks. Although I for one reserve the right to perv and be smutty in general about all things female/pornographic/gay or straight. And I enjoy talking about my penis. Because nobody else here does. And I have a reputation to uphold after all.

lol

Well I for one was a bit... reserved about joining the KB forum, because of my sexuality, and the stereotype I had about bikers and thier attitudes towards GLBT people... but I ended up joining anyway because my fascination with bikes is a lot bigger than my fear of abuse and rejection by narrow minded people...

My partner (Sam) and I considered joining a group like Dykes on Bikes and other affiliated groups, but decided not to restrict ourselves to one type of group, and of all the people I've chatted to from KB, are all a decent bunch that are very openminded and humourous

[Lou Girardin]

So... Since Moto Guzzi is such a tiny brand and pretty well does everything differently to everyone else in the biking world that would make someone that owns one a bit of a non conformist biker? And since bikers are non conformists... And remembering that I don't conform to the biker 'norm' which is already non conformist, does this make me a non conforming non conformist? If so.. Have I in deed come full circle and started to conform again?

Hells teeth this is complicated..

Paul N

No, just tasteless.

[Biff]

lol

My partner (Sam) and I considered joining a group like Dykes on Bikes and other affiliated groups, but decided not to restrict ourselves to one type of group, and of all the people I've chatted to from KB, are all a decent bunch that are very openminded and humourous

Twas indeed you I was referring to.


Now, about my penis.........