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    Safety bastards cripple my Guzzi

    #$@#king W%^kers

    I toddle off to get a wof...

    Ya need a new SS front brake line mate..

    Huh?

    Yeah and ya need to change your foot pegs too....

    Huh?????

    Yup! Apparently you need the 'special' swaged / crimped brake lines as the old bolt together ones are 'dangerous' which is funny 'cos I have never seen one fail, nor has he and he has made 100's of them... $66 for a new line! However the 25 year old original rubber ones are OK to use!

    Solid foot pegs are banned so I need to make some folding ones up!

    How bloody stupid is this! I bet this was invented by the clown that makes people put up all those stupid signs...

    Paul N (broke and pissed off getting a wof)
    Last edited by Paul in NZ; 4th June 2005 at 14:29.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ
    #.. However the 25 year old original rubber ones are OK to use!

    Solid foot pegs are banned so I need to make some folding ones up!

    ..
    I do not think the point about the foot pegs is correct (I mean that the WOF guy was wrong, not you).

    If the bike originally had solid pegs then they are OK. It is the same thing as the brake lines. Whatever the bike had as originally registered it can keep (providing it can pass the actual tests, eg stop quickly enough. Which is irrelevant for pegs).

    It is only if you change from the original that whatever you change to has to comply with later rules. So if you fited rearsets, they would have to be folding, for instance.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Toddle off somewhere else to get the WOF?


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    I was under the impression that if a bike had the original parts (ie: not standard) then it could be denied a WOF. I thought that you could get one with a standard bike???

    What next WOF inspectors are going to tell us that we need training wheels too??

    Sorry to hear that paul, hope it works out mate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ
    Solid foot pegs are banned so I need to make some folding ones up!

    How bloody stupid is this! I bet this was invented by the clown that makes people put up all those stupid signs...

    Paul N (broke and pissed off getting a wof)
    hmm does that mean bikes such as AX100's, old CB250's I think etc plus who know's how many bikes that came out like that standard are now illegal. Surelly that's not right.

    I had some warrant issues on my last car at the WOF testing station here that I was really annoyed with as they were very minor such as the exchaust rattleing. Went back later, different guy passes that no problem. Guess what I'm not going there again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ
    #$@#king W%^kers

    I toddle off to get a wof...

    Ya need a new SS front brake line mate..

    Huh?

    Yeah and ya need to change your foot pegs too....

    Huh?????

    Yup! Apparently you need the 'special' swaged / crimped brake lines as the old bolt together ones are 'dangerous' which is funny 'cos I have never seen one fail, nor has Randal (does the wof) and he has made 100's of them... $66 for a new line! However the 25 year old original rubber ones are OK to use!

    Solid foot pegs are banned so I need to make some folding ones up!

    How bloody stupid is this! I bet this was invented by the clown that makes people put up all those stupid signs...

    Paul N (broke and pissed off getting a wof)
    When you say you need pegs that fold up, is that for the rider or the passanger?
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    I could do some asking around for you on Tuesday if you like..?
    Sometimes the WOF guys do get it wrong; we had a guy in on Friday that'd been told he had to change all the seats in his camper van (or something like that anyway)... he didn't.
    One phone call and he was able to go get his WOF.

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    Quite correct about the non folding footpegs - you can't have a fucntional fitting that could hook or injure a person....you will need to fit folding handlebars too as they can seriously injure pedestians.

    Get him to SHOW you in the VIRM where it says you need folding footpegs - there is no such wording,apart from which I have just written....I'd like to see his interpretation.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motu
    Quite correct about the non folding footpegs - you can't have a fucntional fitting that could hook or injure a person....you will need to fit folding handlebars too as they can seriously injure pedestians.

    Get him to SHOW you in the VIRM where it says you need folding footpegs - there is no such wording,apart from which I have just written....I'd like to see his interpretation.....

    Yes, new safety rules, the front forks have to be hinged too, so that they fold backwards. That way if you hit a pedestrain the front wheel and forks just fold back. All bikes will have to be retrospectively fitted with the new forks before their next warrant.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Ahhh, I see. You know, the only WoF guy I genuinly like is Motu with his useful info. I have met a couple of decent WoF guys but I know a few of them can be PRICKS.
    Thanks Motu
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    Guys..

    I have a proper wof! The tech is a bloody decent guy with a sound knowledge of bikes and he was not shitting me or trying to dick me about. He's unusually helpful and has been VERY decent. The guy is a proper motorcyclist and feels as frustrated as the rest of us! We went through the book and I can appreciate that he is a difficult position interpretting this info... If he gets it wrong he gets into the poo!

    I have ordered a new brake line (I had this from 2 sources and thus accept it). The foot pegs I think are part of a new set of regs.

    Note that the Guzzi has period, aftermarket rear sets fitted from nearly new as the originals were the same on all models sports and touring and I hate the position with clipons.... I'll get a mate to whack up a new set no worries but it's annoying and pointless!

    Cheers

    ps - He did tell me there was a back track on the noise / muffler thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ
    Guys..

    I have a proper wof! The tech is a bloody decent guy with a sound knowledge of bikes and he was not shitting me or trying to dick me about. He's unusually helpful and has been VERY decent. The guy is a proper motorcyclist and feels as frustrated as the rest of us! We went through the book and I can appreciate that he is a difficult position interpretting this info... If he gets it wrong he gets into the poo!

    I have ordered a new brake line (I had this from 2 sources and thus accept it). The foot pegs I think are part of a new set of regs.

    Note that the Guzzi has period, aftermarket rear sets fitted from nearly new as the originals were the same on all models sports and touring and I hate the position with clipons.... I'll get a mate to whack up a new set no worries but it's annoying and pointless!

    Cheers

    ps - He did tell me there was a back track on the noise / muffler thing
    Ah. I think it's the "aftermarket" bit that bites you. Cos you can't say they are original, as per when the bike was complied. Same deal as teh brake hoses. The original ones would be OK , but aftermarkets have to comply with whatever silly new rule they ahve dreamed up.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion
    Ah. I think it's the "aftermarket" bit that bites you. Cos you can't say they are original, as per when the bike was complied. Same deal as teh brake hoses. The original ones would be OK , but aftermarkets have to comply with whatever silly new rule they ahve dreamed up.
    Phew that had me seeing a pile of dosh extra for my next wof, guess ''aftermarket"" legislation-interpretation- co(n)pliance = $$$ But hey its for Y(our) safety aye..... good that its not too hard to fix up
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    But the Suzuki Marauder doesn't have folding front pegs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ
    Guys..

    I have a proper wof! The tech is a bloody decent guy with a sound knowledge of bikes and he was not shitting me or trying to dick me about. He's unusually helpful and has been VERY decent. The guy is a proper motorcyclist and feels as frustrated as the rest of us! We went through the book and I can appreciate that he is a difficult position interpretting this info... If he gets it wrong he gets into the poo!

    I have ordered a new brake line (I had this from 2 sources and thus accept it). The foot pegs I think are part of a new set of regs.

    Note that the Guzzi has period, aftermarket rear sets fitted from nearly new as the originals were the same on all models sports and touring and I hate the position with clipons.... I'll get a mate to whack up a new set no worries but it's annoying and pointless!

    Cheers

    ps - He did tell me there was a back track on the noise / muffler thing
    Paul Im sorry mate but its a total crock of shit.
    I have just consulted the regs and discussed mattersw with one of the north islands 6 Low volume vehicle certifiers --Ie the guy that makes sure trikes and suchlike are safe to be on the road--again he says its a total crock of shit.
    -CB100/125/cg110/125/rx125 -old bikes-trumbies and suchlike ALL have solid pegs.
    Definitely ya need a brake line with the appropriate standards mark on it (by line I mean right up/down to the fittings) but the only possible way your pegs could fail is if there is a sharp edge or tip that could hurt someone.
    If it turns into a bunfight I have the name and number of the person who your WOF guy needs to call to confirm what Im saying.
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