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    Just found a range of flush mount LED's at Super Cheap. 4 colors, and about $14. I'll probably wire it into my lights so I can turn it on and off as req'd. let you know how I get on this week with installation.....
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    The law is

    White or amber facing forward and red or amber facing rearwards. White at rear only for reversing lamps. All other colours are illegal.
    Neons and other under-car illumination is under similar rules i.e. white/amber forwards and red/amber rearwards. At the side you can have other colours although the light source must not be directly visible and you can not have flashing/distracting lighting.

    Personally I have 2 blue forward facing marker LEDs and have had a comment from a female police officer at a booze checkpoint that they are illegal (which I knew) to which I replied "thank you officer, I am aware of that, but I would rather be seen" she then went on to say that riding a black bike at night with black riding gear and helmet was probably not a good idea!
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    It's not quite so easy - at least to do it legally. I checked out the law on this a while ago, and what you a talking about are classed as daytime running lamps. I suggest you check the LTSA website, which lists the following standards which are required for daytime running lamps:

    Daytime running lamps
    Must meet one of these component standards (or a more recent version):

    UN/ECE Regulation No. 87, Uniform provisions concerning the approval of daytime running lamps for power-driven vehicles (E/ECE324-E/ECE/TRANS/505/Rev.1/Add.86)
    Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 108, Lamps, reflective devices and associated equipment
    Australian Design Rule 45, Lighting and light-signalling devices not covered by ECE Regulations.
    Australian Design Rule 76, Daytime running lamps

    So you can't use any old LED's. The Hella daytime running lamp kits are probably the best legal option, but seem expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HQfiend View Post
    Personally I have 2 blue forward facing marker LEDs and have had a comment from a female police officer at a booze checkpoint that they are illegal (which I knew) to which I replied "thank you officer, I am aware of that, but I would rather be seen" she then went on to say that riding a black bike at night with black riding gear and helmet was probably not a good idea!
    Some Aucklanders on 10-7 were nabbed in their van, $500 fine iirc.

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    My mate has white leds facing forward - he removed the amber reflectors from his forks and used the mounts for the lights - then stuck the reflectors on the outside of the lights
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    Quote Originally Posted by HQfiend View Post

    Personally I have 2 blue forward facing marker LEDs and have had a comment from a female police officer at a booze checkpoint that they are illegal (which I knew) to which I replied "thank you officer, I am aware of that, but I would rather be seen" she then went on to say that riding a black bike at night with black riding gear and helmet was probably not a good idea!
    I'm surprised she didn't say "well, I'm sure you can be seen just as well with white LEDs which are legal" and hand you a ticket especially given that you'd just admitted that you knew they were illegal but had them anyway.
    But bollocks to the comment about the black bike with black gear - that's not illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_t View Post
    But bollocks to the comment about the black bike with black gear - that's not illegal.
    She was only passing a comment - the 'legal-ness' was not mentioned...
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    These strike me as a good kit.

    Great NZ site to deal with too - super quick on the delivery.

    http://www.fastbikegear.co.nz/index....roducts_id=185

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    She was only passing a comment - the 'legal-ness' was not mentioned...
    The comment went on to mention changing my riding gear to fluro jacket and white helmet to be seen by the driving public. As we know from the forums you can be lit up like a xmas tree and wearing all the fluro kit that is known to man and you'll still get SMIDSY'd!!!! (Sorry Mate I Didn't See You)

    They do see the blue LEDs and respond to them by getting out of the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saltydog View Post
    Anyone know the oil on mounting a small LED light facing forward? I have a mate with one drilled discretely into his faring and it is REALLY visible, more eye-catching than his headlights at times. Reckon it would be illegal??
    Heh, started a thread in law section about led strips... very similar to what you are after... thread has links to sections of law etc

    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...-under-the-law
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    Here is the finished product. As i travel in the the vicinity of the right hand wheel track the LED shines directly into the back of the vehicle. It's probably illegal as I wired them into my park and full headlight positions on my light switch (I can actually turn my lights on and off independantly of the motor)
    what ya reckon?
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    What colour is it? Looks like it could be blue or white? Needs to be white rather than blue to be legal...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    Blue

    The led is blue. Laser imorts (ledbulbs.co.nz) reckons that blue led park lights are 100% legal, but this led who knows! I'll wait until the next warrent or a copper stops me to really find out.
    As long as its more visible, thats where I'm coming from...........
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    Yeup, with you on the visibility, but I believe they are not legal. Its more... its a minor issue, but they can do you for it if they really feel like it.

    In general, lights must be white or amber forward, amber to sides, amber or red to rear (excluding reverse lights) and excluding cosmetic lighting.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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